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Old 04-21-16, 12:01 PM
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The Best Gets Better: More Powerful, Fuel Efficient and Technologically Advanced 2017 Accord Hybrid Launching this Spring

• Next-generation two-motor hybrid powertrain expected to receive class-leading EPA fuel economy ratings; including 49 mpg city
• Most powerful and refined midsize hybrid sedan with 212 total combined horsepower
• Honda Sensing™ safety and driver-assistive technologies standard
• Doubled production capacity for expected sales increase

TORRANCE, Calif., April 21, 2016 – Honda will bolster its Accord lineup with the launch of the 2017 Accord Hybrid this spring, featuring a more powerful and efficient second-generation two-motor hybrid powertrain that has the highest EPA fuel economy ratings of any midsize hybrid sedan and delivers the most power. With improved production methods and supplies of hybrid components, Honda is anticipating significant growth in sales of Accord Hybrid and is targeting annual sales to be more than double its previous best of just under 14,000 vehicles in 2014.
"The new Honda Accord Hybrid is the ultimate Accord – the most refined, technologically sophisticated and, of course, most fuel efficient in the lineup," said John Mendel, Executive Vice President of the American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "With Accord already America's most popular car three years running and the best-selling midsize car to younger buyers, we think this new hybrid model will add considerable momentum for the Honda brand."

In addition to its more powerful and fuel efficient hybrid powertrain, the 2017 Accord Hybrid carries the substantial upgrades made to the entire Accord lineup for model year 2016. This includes the latest technology Honda has to offer, including the available Display Audio with Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™, and the Honda Sensing™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, to be offered as standard equipment on all new 2017 Accord Hybrids. Hybrid-exclusive design features include a special aluminum hood and wheels, blue highlighted LED headlights and taillights and "Hybrid" exterior badging. A more compact hybrid battery pack increases trunk capacity to a midsize hybrid class-leading 13.5 cu.-ft.
Combining the next generation of Honda's two-motor hybrid system with an ultra-efficient 2.0-liter i-VTEC Atkinson Cycle engine, the 2017 Accord Hybrid powertrain will achieve peak combined output of 212 horsepower, the highest of any midsize hybrid sedan and up 16 horsepower over the 2015 Accord Hybrid. EPA fuel economy ratings of 49/47/48 (city/highway/combined) put the Accord Hybrid at the top of the class for ratings, making it the most powerful and fuel efficient midsize hybrid sedan in America. These EPA fuel economy ratings are based on new, more stringent ratings requirements enacted by the U.S. EPA for the 2017 model year. Based on the new requirements, Honda estimates the 2015 Accord Hybrid ratings would be 48/45/47 (actually rated at 50/45/47 under the previous method), indicating a +1/+2/+1 increase for the 2017 model over the previous version.

The Accord Hybrid's two-motor hybrid powertrain takes an elegant and innovative approach to hybrid power, eliminating the need for a conventional mechanical transmission. The Accord Hybrid's powertrain seamlessly transitions between three operations:

• EV Drive – using its electric propulsion motor and lithium ion battery pack drives the front wheels for short distances under light loads (with the engine turned off)
• Hybrid Drive – the electric propulsion motor drives the front wheels while the gasoline engine powers a second motor/generator to supplement electrical current drawn from the battery pack
• Engine Drive – using a lock-up clutch mechanism to connect the engine and propulsion motor, the front wheels are driven by both the motor and gasoline engine.

With its next-generation Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure and Honda Sensing™ technology, the 2017 Accord is anticipated to receive the highest available crash safety rating from the U.S. government – a 5-Star Overall Vehicle Score from the NHTSA – and a similar top rating of TOP SAFETY PICK+ from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).

The 2017 Accord Hybrid will be available in three trims – Hybrid, Hybrid EX-L and Hybrid Touring – and all grades will feature increased levels of standard and available equipment. New standard features include a wide angle rearview camera, remote engine start and Honda Sensing™, which includes Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™), Lane Keeping Assist (LKAS), Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Road Departure Mitigation (RDM), Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Forward Collision Warning (FCW). Available new features on upper trims include a 7-inch Display Audio touchscreen with Android Auto™ and Apple CarPlay compatibility, heated rear seats, and front and rear parking sensors.

The Accord has been named a Car and Driver magazine "10Best" an unprecedented 30 times and has been the most popular car in America with retail car buyers for three consecutive years. The Accord is on track to earn a fourth straight year as America's most popular car with sales up 12.3 percent through the first three months of 2016. Accord also is the most popular midsize car with Millennials and has been #1 with under-35-year-olds for four consecutive years and leads all other cars in America, except Honda's own Civic, in sales to under under-35 car buyers since 2010.

The 2017 Honda Accord Hybrid will make its first public appearance at the Aquarium of the Pacific in Long Beach, Calif., as part of the aquarium's Earth Day weekend celebrations on April 23-24.
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Old 04-21-16, 12:23 PM
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so why does Accord Hybrid sell so much less than competition? I assume its price? Even last year when it had its best year, it sold 2x-3x than Camry but also worse than Hyundai Sonata Hybrid.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
so why does Accord Hybrid sell so much less than competition? I assume its price? Even last year when it had its best year, it sold 2x-3x than Camry but also worse than Hyundai Sonata Hybrid.
It's priced too high and they had some supply constraint at the beginning of last year. At first glance, the base hybrid model starts $3k more than the Camry Hybrid. I went car shopping a couple months ago and couldn't find one under $34k. I lost interest after that..
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Originally Posted by GSteg
It's priced too high and they had some supply constraint at the beginning of last year. At first glance, the base hybrid model starts $3k more than the Camry Hybrid. I went car shopping a couple months ago and couldn't find one under $34k. I lost interest after that..
ah, thats pretty expensive then... thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
so why does Accord Hybrid sell so much less than competition? I assume its price? Even last year when it had its best year, it sold 2x-3x than Camry but also worse than Hyundai Sonata Hybrid.
There seem to be a number of reasons for the low sales of the HAH:
  • There seemed to be supply limitations. Was this due to limitations at the plant in Ohio or limitations from suppliers? Was this the reason Honda switched production from Ohio to Japan?
  • It quietly vanished from Honda's 2016 lineup as they shifted production from Ohio to Japan. Why did Honda not do this during the next full model change?
  • Honda restricted sales, not selling to large fleets (Honda does have a thing against selling to fleets).
The Accord Hybrid hit the market in October 2013; from then through last month, Honda sold more than 25,000 of them, representing 3.4 percent of all Accord sales in 2014 and 2015.

That number that would likely have been higher if Honda didn't restrict its sales to big fleets, which often buy hybrid sedans from competitors for their lower operating cost.
Source: Green Car Reports

Government bodies here in Ontario, Canada do buy hybrids for their fleets. I have seen Camry Hybrids and Fusion Hybrids (and may have seen Escape Hybrids and other Ford hybrids). And, of course, Camry Hybrids are becoming popular taxi models.

I don't remember ever seeing an Accord Hybrid.
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They moved the Accord Hybrid to Japan so that the Ohio plant can increase production on the regular Accords. My guess as to why they didn't wait until the next cycle is that the Accord Plug-In was already built in Japan. I imagine they were already equipped to produce the regular Hybrids.
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The biggest hit with the current Accord is the dashboard styling. Nearly all other brands have gotten rid of a separate hump in the middle for the nav screen. It's a big wart here. The new Pilot does it right and I'd expect to see the next Accord dash to look like that. Otherwise, Honda needs no excuses for this Accord. Impressive economy numbers and modern body.
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I hope they put this hybrid drive train into the CRV one of these days!
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Originally Posted by Sulu
There seem to be a number of reasons for the low sales of the HAH:
  • There seemed to be supply limitations. Was this due to limitations at the plant in Ohio or limitations from suppliers? Was this the reason Honda switched production from Ohio to Japan?
  • It quietly vanished from Honda's 2016 lineup as they shifted production from Ohio to Japan. Why did Honda not do this during the next full model change?
  • Honda restricted sales, not selling to large fleets (Honda does have a thing against selling to fleets).


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Government bodies here in Ontario, Canada do buy hybrids for their fleets. I have seen Camry Hybrids and Fusion Hybrids (and may have seen Escape Hybrids and other Ford hybrids). And, of course, Camry Hybrids are becoming popular taxi models.

I don't remember ever seeing an Accord Hybrid.
Honda never does sell to fleets, they dont want to give discounts.
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Originally Posted by ABC
I hope they put this hybrid drive train into the CRV one of these days!
except they would price it at $39K
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Not many fuel efficient vehicles sell in volumes now because of low gas prices. It's difficult to make a case for payback when hybrid vehicles normally come with more standard equipment, higher end models, resulting in much higher $$$ than comparable non-hybrid models.
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Originally Posted by MikeP
Not many fuel efficient vehicles sell in volumes now because of low gas prices. It's difficult to make a case for payback when hybrid vehicles normally come with more standard equipment, higher end models, resulting in much higher $$$ than comparable non-hybrid models.
Hybrid vehicles come with more standard equipment to justify the higher cost of the parallel (electric) drivetrain to the average buyer. A Toyota Prius with the same level of features as the size-comparable Toyota Corolla would be laughed at for being expensive, yet offering no "luxury features". So, Toyota adds more standard equipment, which actually costs Toyota very little yet can sell for high prices, covering up the premium of the hybrid over the regular car.
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Originally Posted by GSteg
It's priced too high and they had some supply constraint at the beginning of last year. At first glance, the base hybrid model starts $3k more than the Camry Hybrid. I went car shopping a couple months ago and couldn't find one under $34k. I lost interest after that..
Even for the base Accord it was a lot more than I anticipated so I can imagine trying to buy a Hybrid version is going to cost more $$$
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