Anyone own a German vehicle, or want to at some point in addition to our Lexus?
#31
Lexus Champion
I've owned American, Japanese, and European most being sporty or performance cars. Of the three, the Japanese cars are the most reliable. However, if I was looking at another performance vehicle, I'd be looking at American and European even if it's a bit less reliable than Japanese cars.
#35
I own a2008 BMW 128i (e88). A Lexus 2003 lexus sc430. A 2007 Land Rover lr3. A 2000 jaguar s-type. I do most work-maintenance myself. Reliability has been really good for all four vehicles. Knock on wood I haven't had a break down in any of them. Out of a lot of cars I've owned. Only two have had what I would call reliability problems. The first was my first car a 79 mustang. The other was an 2002 Oldsmobile intrigue. I'll tell you what all manufacturers make cars that are lemons. Meaning even in models that are deemed reliable. Some substandard parts make their way onto cars. I design quality control gigs for auto manufacturers. Even though parts are checked doesn't mean close parts aren't still pushed through for financial reasons. My bmw is my favorite car to drive. It would be the last one I would give up right now. Now the Lexus IS I think the best looking car I own.
#36
Lead Lap
I emotionally connect with German cars and British cars. Haven't ever driven in a Lexus where the "must buy" light popped into my head. I also don't keep cars long enough for reliability to be a driving factor. So right now I recommend Lexus's to anybody but never own them myself.
#39
Driver School Candidate
While shopping for a car to replace my old commuter (2001 crown Victoria) I was looking at getting a used Mercedes C300 or a BMW 328i. A family member of mine who used to own a 2003 325i screamed at me for 3 hours telling me not to get one. Their main argument was "prepare to spend your weekends and money at the dealership". I bought my 2006 Lexus IS350 instead due to reliability and past experiences with the car.
#40
I just replaced my daily (2008 BMW 3 series) with IS300 F sport. We also have '09 RX350. After spending close to $4k in repairs in 2015 for the BMW it was time for it to go as it developed multiple problems beginning of the year that would have cost me another $2k+. Reliability is what brought me back to Lexus as our very first lexus lasted 240k miles and current RX350 has over 122k with zero issues. My E92 developed issues as soon as it went over 50k miles .
Oh yea we also had an 06 Mercedes ML350 that was a nightmare. I'll lease but probably won't "buy/own" a German car anymore after my experience with BMW and Mercedes
Oh yea we also had an 06 Mercedes ML350 that was a nightmare. I'll lease but probably won't "buy/own" a German car anymore after my experience with BMW and Mercedes
#41
I've owned two German cars. An Audi TT and a Porsche Cayman. Stay as far away from a German car if its turbo. They are hideously unreliable after 60k miles and cost a fortune to fix. I did all my own work on my Audi and it was still a ton of time and money. In this day and age there is no excuse for such unreliable cars. My Porsche on the other hand, its been a gem, they have crap water pumps like every German vehicle (last 60K) and clutches that only last 60k miles but other than that its well built and up there with Lexus in build quality. I would avoid BMWs because everyone I know who had one hated it because of poor quality, especially chinsy interior bits falling apart. Mercedes I have no experience with but seeing as they just went turbo 4 in the C300/400 I would run. The Germans cannot do reliable turbo cars they need tremendous upkeep, I would lease a German car only (except Porsche).
I used to own an RX300, and it was a zero maintence car, but it was too boring for me.
I used to own an RX300, and it was a zero maintence car, but it was too boring for me.
#42
My first pick would be a S8(think Transporter) and my second would be a M5. The only problem I have is I set a limit of $20K to spend on a car. At that price level the above would be a piece of $rap. The M5 was rated one of the most unreliable cars by CR. So I bought my 430 7 years ago for under $20(sticker was almost $60K new), perform most all maintenance myself(had TB done by trusted shop) and enjoy the 5.8 sec 0-60 MPH as much as I can. To think that time beats many of the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's while being reliable.
#43
Pole Position
I just replaced my daily (2008 BMW 3 series) with IS300 F sport. We also have '09 RX350. After spending close to $4k in repairs in 2015 for the BMW it was time for it to go as it developed multiple problems beginning of the year that would have cost me another $2k+. Reliability is what brought me back to Lexus as our very first lexus lasted 240k miles and current RX350 has over 122k with zero issues. My E92 developed issues as soon as it went over 50k miles .
Oh yea we also had an 06 Mercedes ML350 that was a nightmare. I'll lease but probably won't "buy/own" a German car anymore after my experience with BMW and Mercedes
Oh yea we also had an 06 Mercedes ML350 that was a nightmare. I'll lease but probably won't "buy/own" a German car anymore after my experience with BMW and Mercedes
As soon as the warranty is up, I will move on from the German cars (especially the high-end turbo models)....but you can get extended warranties up to 100,000 miles now. That's plenty of time to enjoy the car.
My 2 Lexuses, one with 220,000, the other with 310,000 miles, I'll keep them until they or I die.
And since they're so solid, I now have the ability to dibble and dabble into the German marques (currently with an M4), and will turn them in or sell them when I'm ready while they're still under warranty. For me, a pure car enthusiast, it's a win-win.
#44
Lexus Champion
Yeah, I'm never going to own a German car, but it's a helluva great lease.
As soon as the warranty is up, I will move on from the German cars (especially the high-end turbo models)....but you can get extended warranties up to 100,000 miles now. That's plenty of time to enjoy the car.
My 2 Lexuses, one with 220,000, the other with 310,000 miles, I'll keep them until they or I die.
And since they're so solid, I now have the ability to dibble and dabble into the German marques (currently with an M4), and will turn them in or sell them when I'm ready while they're still under warranty. For me, a pure car enthusiast, it's a win-win.
As soon as the warranty is up, I will move on from the German cars (especially the high-end turbo models)....but you can get extended warranties up to 100,000 miles now. That's plenty of time to enjoy the car.
My 2 Lexuses, one with 220,000, the other with 310,000 miles, I'll keep them until they or I die.
And since they're so solid, I now have the ability to dibble and dabble into the German marques (currently with an M4), and will turn them in or sell them when I'm ready while they're still under warranty. For me, a pure car enthusiast, it's a win-win.