So what is it with drivers these days?
03-27-16, 06:22 AM
#16
Although I have several pet peeves, yesterday my parking lot pet peeve was cranked up. Why must some folks drive so damn fast in parking lots. Sitting in their one ton protective shells, they zip about unaware of children or cars backing out of spaces. Ugh, drives me nuts.
Oh and LLCs. On a two lane interstate, they get in the left lane and camp there. Oblivious to other cars, driving at some poky speed, enjoying controlling traffic. They have no power walking around outside of their cars in their daily lives, but oh let's camp out in that left lane and they are all powerful. And of course it works, 'cuz I'm all worked up about it. Suffering at their mercy.
Truck drivers generally are excellent drivers and often courteous. Just once in awhile two jackasses will slow down side-by-side and block both lanes. That will toast my britches too.
I just think the normally powerless, become empowered driving a car. They become bold and brave sitting in the driver's seat of a car or just gawd awful oblivious to their surroundings.
Oh and LLCs. On a two lane interstate, they get in the left lane and camp there. Oblivious to other cars, driving at some poky speed, enjoying controlling traffic. They have no power walking around outside of their cars in their daily lives, but oh let's camp out in that left lane and they are all powerful. And of course it works, 'cuz I'm all worked up about it. Suffering at their mercy.
Truck drivers generally are excellent drivers and often courteous. Just once in awhile two jackasses will slow down side-by-side and block both lanes. That will toast my britches too.
I just think the normally powerless, become empowered driving a car. They become bold and brave sitting in the driver's seat of a car or just gawd awful oblivious to their surroundings.
03-27-16, 07:27 AM
#17
I'm noticing drivers that seem to wander around aimlessly, turning at the last minute with no turn signal, coming over into my lane, crossing 3 lanes of traffic to make a turn, sitting at a green light long after it has changed and just generally poking along like they've never driven before.
03-27-16, 07:50 AM
#18
Driving is very much an acquired skill and driving fast is an art form. Unfortunately too many regular drivers have made it their mission in life to win every stoplight fight, every two lane, three lane contest. But they are neither artists or skilled professionals. Their cars drive them.
You want to see bad drivers? Come to Canada. Alberta in Western Canada, is the Cowboy Capital of the place. The Lower Mainland is even worse.
Driving is now a combat sport and a form of bullying because, it's easy to get your license and the price of admission is pretty cheap. Not driving way over the speed limit? I'll bully you by coming up on your bumper like a NASCAR racer.
If only NA would adopt tough European measures, ie. Germany.
You want to see bad drivers? Come to Canada. Alberta in Western Canada, is the Cowboy Capital of the place. The Lower Mainland is even worse.
Driving is now a combat sport and a form of bullying because, it's easy to get your license and the price of admission is pretty cheap. Not driving way over the speed limit? I'll bully you by coming up on your bumper like a NASCAR racer.
If only NA would adopt tough European measures, ie. Germany.
03-27-16, 10:25 AM
#19
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by chrisp1
Driving on the autobahn in Germany was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had on vacation. It works with such precision and everyone follows the rules and it makes the driving experience amazing. The fact that you can go as fast as you want in certain sections in the left lane is Pretty cool but all your senses have to be on high alert. The coolest part was that nobody would pass on the right. That has to be one of my biggest pet peeves....when your in the middle lane and someone floors it and passes on the right instead of the passing lane.
03-27-16, 01:03 PM
#20
Lead Lap
There is no rule, implicit or explicit, in the US that says we can only pass on the left. Without strict enforcement of this, passing on the right is okay as idiots will park on the left. Sorry but you are going 80 in the left lane doesn't mean you can park there if the car behind you wants to pass. I say if you aren't the fastest car on the left, move over
03-27-16, 04:50 PM
#21
I found the only way to drive around is treat it like an obstacle course and just get around people. It helps to have a nimble, smaller car with a decent power and to scoot through those little gaps in traffic 
Be careful my friend 
In an obstacle race you run in your own lane, not the next lane.
03-27-16, 04:55 PM
#22
There is no rule, implicit or explicit, in the US that says we can only pass on the left. Without strict enforcement of this, passing on the right is okay as idiots will park on the left. Sorry but you are going 80 in the left lane doesn't mean you can park there if the car behind you wants to pass. I say if you aren't the fastest car on the left, move over
Great post, someone get this guy a cookie!
03-27-16, 05:18 PM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
enforcement of these left lane dawdlers as i call them should have a much bigger place than the actual speeding itself. it was already said in this thread and it's been said elsewhere too but the autobahn works because everyone adheres to the rules and nobody ever uses the left lane for traveling in, only passing. if i were a cop i'd make it my mission to pull over people hogging the left lane.
Now, I'm not saying that one has to just sit there and nail the limit, like on cruise-control...leeway is built into speed-enforcement for a number of reasons, and most police, radar/laser, or speed-cameras won't bother you if you are within 10 MPH or so of the posted limit. But too many people simply think that the left lane is a race-track, and IMO they are as bad or worse than Grandpa or Grandma plodding along at 40 MPH.
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-27-16 at 05:34 PM.
03-27-16, 05:31 PM
#24
No, I don't play soccer!
A coworker's father lost his license for a few months because he failed to move over on the Autobahn. We need a law like that over here to take care of the LLCs.
In no particular order:
The brain dead - Wake up! Drive at least the speed limit. Use your signal. You're not the only driver on the road. And for God's sake, save the sightseeing for the sidewalk.
The fossils - There comes a time to give up driving, hopefully before you hurt or kill somebody. That includes yourself.
Psycho moms in minivans/SUVs-Do you really drive like that with your kids in the car?! It's called child endangerment.
The impatient ones - Speeding, cutting across lanes, running lights, illegally passing, disregarding signs - all for the sake of saving a few precious seconds.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
In no particular order:
The brain dead - Wake up! Drive at least the speed limit. Use your signal. You're not the only driver on the road. And for God's sake, save the sightseeing for the sidewalk.
The fossils - There comes a time to give up driving, hopefully before you hurt or kill somebody. That includes yourself.
Psycho moms in minivans/SUVs-Do you really drive like that with your kids in the car?! It's called child endangerment.
The impatient ones - Speeding, cutting across lanes, running lights, illegally passing, disregarding signs - all for the sake of saving a few precious seconds.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
03-27-16, 05:34 PM
#25
A coworker's father lost his license for a few months because he failed to move over on the Autobahn. We need a law like that over here to take care of the LLCs.
In no particular order:
The brain dead - Wake up! Drive at least the speed limit. Use your signal. You're not the only driver on the road. And for God's sake, save the sightseeing for the sidewalk.
The fossils - There comes a time to give up driving, hopefully before you hurt or kill somebody. That includes yourself.
Psycho moms in minivans/SUVs-Do you really drive like that with your kids in the car?! It's called child endangerment.
The impatient ones - Speeding, cutting across lanes, running lights, illegally passing, disregarding signs - all for the sake of saving a few precious seconds.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
In no particular order:
The brain dead - Wake up! Drive at least the speed limit. Use your signal. You're not the only driver on the road. And for God's sake, save the sightseeing for the sidewalk.
The fossils - There comes a time to give up driving, hopefully before you hurt or kill somebody. That includes yourself.
Psycho moms in minivans/SUVs-Do you really drive like that with your kids in the car?! It's called child endangerment.
The impatient ones - Speeding, cutting across lanes, running lights, illegally passing, disregarding signs - all for the sake of saving a few precious seconds.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
03-27-16, 05:42 PM
#26
Lexus Fanatic
The brain dead - Wake up! Drive at least the speed limit.
Use your signal. You're not the only driver on the road. And for God's sake, save the sightseeing for the sidewalk.
The fossils - There comes a time to give up driving, hopefully before you hurt or kill somebody. That includes yourself.
Psycho moms in minivans/SUVs-Do you really drive like that with your kids in the car?! It's called child endangerment.
The impatient ones - Speeding, cutting across lanes, running lights, illegally passing, disregarding signs - all for the sake of saving a few precious seconds.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
The drunk or impaired (drugs, cellphone, etc.) - The epitome of selfishness. Get over yourself.
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-27-16 at 05:49 PM.
03-27-16, 06:07 PM
#27
Lexus Champion
I really just hate driving anymore.... just give me the self-driving car and be done with it.
03-27-16, 07:22 PM
#28
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
I forgot to mention 3-lane surface roads where the light turns and all 3 cars think it is fine to go exactly the same speed and drive next to each other (usually under the speed limit) so no one else can go around. Not to mention the fact that they are all in each other's blind spots or could have to swerve for road hazards or (less likely) blow a tire and they will just crash into each other all at once.
Second part is this. Everyone is driving up to 3 stoplights. There is one empty lane and a driver that has been poking along behind another car decides to rush up to the only empty lane. Then when the light changes he/she goes exactly the same slow-*** speed as the driver he/she was behind. Why do they feel they need to occupy an empty lane when they were perfectly fine trailing another slow vehicle up the that point. Just pure stupidity.
Second part is this. Everyone is driving up to 3 stoplights. There is one empty lane and a driver that has been poking along behind another car decides to rush up to the only empty lane. Then when the light changes he/she goes exactly the same slow-*** speed as the driver he/she was behind. Why do they feel they need to occupy an empty lane when they were perfectly fine trailing another slow vehicle up the that point. Just pure stupidity.
03-27-16, 07:25 PM
#29
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
There is no rule, implicit or explicit, in the US that says we can only pass on the left. Without strict enforcement of this, passing on the right is okay as idiots will park on the left. Sorry but you are going 80 in the left lane doesn't mean you can park there if the car behind you wants to pass. I say if you aren't the fastest car on the left, move over
03-27-16, 07:26 PM
#30
Lexus Champion
Driving on the autobahn in Germany was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had on vacation. It works with such precision and everyone follows the rules and it makes the driving experience amazing. The fact that you can go as fast as you want in certain sections in the left lane is Pretty cool but all your senses have to be on high alert. The coolest part was that nobody would pass on the right. That has to be one of my biggest pet peeves....when your in the middle lane and someone floors it and passes on the right instead of the passing lane.
In my burg where redneck goofiness is on display all day and in all ways: eg. high brow lady in a Nissan CUV pulls out of a side street in an urban neighborhood and promptly speeds up behind me to get to know me better. This as I'm doing just under the speed limit to the red light at the intersection about four blocks ahead.
It's a speeding and get-outta-my-way epidemic that is unenforced because cops don't like doing traffic duty - not sexy enough.
Tougher standards for licensing for sure. The price of entry needs to be higher in terms of skill.
Look to the aviation world - you'll see why pilots are strictly controlled in how they fly and what they fly. Not advocating that for car drivers but you know some aspects wouldn't hurt.
Lane discipline, speeds, car control, tailgating and aggresive road behaviour, distracted driving. These are all issues leading to all of this.