Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Toyota reveals 2017 Prius Prime

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-23-16, 08:58 AM
  #16  
situman
Pole Position
 
situman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 3,408
Received 162 Likes on 112 Posts
Default

Ummmm I think it looks great hahahaaaa. Seriously I really do.
situman is online now  
Old 03-23-16, 09:22 AM
  #17  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

looks like tiny 15" wheels tho....only thing I don't like.
bagwell is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 09:31 AM
  #18  
RXSF
Moderator
 
RXSF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,044
Likes: 0
Received 69 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

I have to say this is lightyears better looking than the standard Prius. Makes me wonder why Toyota would need to build two of the same vehicle. They very could have easily used the same body for both models. Very strange.
RXSF is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 10:35 AM
  #19  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default




copying off Tesla?

bagwell is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 10:44 AM
  #20  
JessePS
Moderator

 
JessePS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: QC/FRANCE
Posts: 8,349
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

22 mile plug-in range. I guess that is decent, if you commute to work (plus be able to recharge at the office) and you are not stuck in traffic. Nice job on the Tesla-like console.
JessePS is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 10:46 AM
  #21  
ryanSC300lover
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
ryanSC300lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 3,750
Received 86 Likes on 66 Posts
Default

Is the 22 mile plug in range at highway speeds ?
ryanSC300lover is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 11:49 AM
  #22  
Sulu
Lexus Champion
 
Sulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 0
Received 30 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RXSF
I have to say this is lightyears better looking than the standard Prius. Makes me wonder why Toyota would need to build two of the same vehicle. They very could have easily used the same body for both models. Very strange.
Toyota did use the same body for the Prius and Prius Prime, just different front and rear ends (fascias).

Originally Posted by JessePS
22 mile plug-in range. I guess that is decent, if you commute to work (plus be able to recharge at the office) and you are not stuck in traffic. Nice job on the Tesla-like console.
Of course, there is the tendency to compare the EV range of the Prius Prime with the range of the other plug-in hybrid, the new Volt, or even battery-electric vehicles like the Nissan Leaf, but that is not a fair comparison.

The Leaf has a HUGE battery sitting underneath just about the whole passenger compartment (underneath the driver and front passenger seats, under the rear footwell and under the rear seat where without the need for a fuel tank, that space is taken up by the battery).

The Volt also has a HUGE battery, taking up room in the central tunnel from the front seats back in a T-shape to under the rear seat. In the first-generation Volt, the battery prevented a centre passenger in the rear seat.

The Prius Prime, however, likely has a small battery, in comparison. The regular Prius' battery shares space under the rear seat with the fuel tank. The Prius Prime probably keeps that battery and adds another battery under the rear cargo floor.

Modern hybrid and electric vehicle batteries just do not have enough capacity so there is a trade-off: If you want EV range, you need a huge battery that takes up passenger and/or cargo space. If you want passenger and cargo space, you need a smaller battery that reduces EV range.
Sulu is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 01:12 PM
  #23  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Inside and out, I like this probably more than I should

Would love to see the color palette on the Prime.
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 04:17 PM
  #24  
RXSF
Moderator
 
RXSF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,044
Likes: 0
Received 69 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

22 miles is better than 13 from last gen
RXSF is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 04:33 PM
  #25  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,841
Received 110 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Prius Prime (PHEV)

Main Points

- Luxury Prius, not just PHEV. Luxury Toyota in the sense of Mirai.
- different front, back, rear window, roof.
- 4 seater design with foldable rear seats
- rear cargo floor higher by 7.7cm
- 11.6" HD screen with all new HD graphics/software
- Seats for USA with Mirai design, Japanese have diamond patter like in luxury vehicles (look great).
- Full LED lighting front and back except for reverse light.
- Adaptive LED high beam system, detects traffic and blocks high beam only partially, where needed.
- World first solar panels that charge the battery pack as well as 12v battery (for charging your devices, Japan/Europe only)
- World first heat pump and inverter a/c electric heating/cooling system for better battery performance (big issue in EVs in winter)
- 22 miles USA, 50 km Europe, 60km Japanese cycle ev.
- Dual motor for powering wheels, faster acceleration than normal Prius despite 300lbs extra
- 135kmh/81mph top EV-only speed.
- Rear hatch construction in carbon firbre, first for Toyota.
- Rear window has cool design that goes from roof into the spoiler (two bulges, double bubble design)
- 120 MPGe (Volt is 106 MPGe)
- Same MPG as regular Prius when in fuel mode
- Can charge battery with engine as well
- Navigation based predictive brake regenration
- Standard TSS+
- laminated front windshield, front windows, more sound deadening, different engine behaviour for more silent drive compared to regular Prius

- Old Prius PHEV sold 75k worldwide.

































spwolf is online now  
Old 03-23-16, 04:47 PM
  #26  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by spwolf
Prius Prime (PHEV)

Main Points

- Luxury Prius, not just PHEV. Luxury Toyota in the sense of Mirai.
- different front, back, rear window, roof.
- 4 seater design with foldable rear seats
- rear cargo floor higher by 7.7cm
- 11.6" HD screen with all new HD graphics/software
- Seats for USA with Mirai design, Japanese have diamond patter like in luxury vehicles (look great).
- Full LED lighting front and back except for reverse light.
- Adaptive LED high beam system, detects traffic and blocks high beam only partially, where needed.
- World first solar panels that charge the battery pack as well as 12v battery (for charging your devices, Japan/Europe only)
- World first heat pump and inverter a/c electric heating/cooling system for better battery performance (big issue in EVs in winter)
- 22 miles USA, 50 km Europe, 60km Japanese cycle ev.
- Dual motor for powering wheels, faster acceleration than normal Prius despite 300lbs extra
- 135kmh/81mph top EV-only speed.
- Rear hatch construction in carbon firbre, first for Toyota.
- Rear window has cool design that goes from roof into the spoiler (two bulges, double bubble design)
- 120 MPGe (Volt is 106 MPGe)
- Same MPG as regular Prius when in fuel mode
- Can charge battery with engine as well
- Navigation based predictive brake regenration
- Standard TSS+
- laminated front windshield, front windows, more sound deadening, different engine behaviour for more silent drive compared to regular Prius
Some great points.

The next Lexus CT has NO excuses..
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 03-23-16, 04:56 PM
  #27  
Motor
Lexus Champion
 
Motor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CA™
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default


The 2017 #Prius Prime is here. With its striking new design, it’s a plug-in hybrid that’s as inspiring to the senses as it is mindful of the world around us.
Motor is offline  
Old 03-24-16, 07:09 AM
  #28  
Vladi
Pole Position
 
Vladi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

That's very disappointing eRange considering its an econobox that carries a Prius name. Shame.
Vladi is offline  
Old 03-24-16, 09:31 AM
  #29  
GS3Tek
Moderator
iTrader: (8)
 
GS3Tek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: so cal
Posts: 12,358
Received 162 Likes on 123 Posts
Default

Does anyone know why it's a 2+2?

The new prius doesn't bother me, but this prime looks pretty good
GS3Tek is offline  
Old 03-24-16, 10:21 AM
  #30  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,889
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GS3Tek
Does anyone know why it's a 2+2?

The new prius doesn't bother me, but this prime looks pretty good
It doesn't seem to be from the battery packaging size like the Volt used to be, but my estimation is that it has to do with weight rating and performance specifications. With the added weight of the larger battery pack, maybe they needed to limit other weight capacities to maintain certain ratings for fuel efficiency estimates or other issues.
pbm317 is offline  


Quick Reply: Toyota reveals 2017 Prius Prime



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:42 PM.