Where's the '17 LS?? (now that LC has come out)
01-11-16, 07:30 PM
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Where's the '17 LS?? (now that LC has come out)
So we know the all-new (finally) LS500 will be available sometime this year as a '17 model. (At least I think so...)
When are we going to see it or learn anything about it??
The LC is disgustingly sick, just wow. But I'm dying to see the new LS also. That car is lonnnnnng overdue for a redesign. Interested to see if the LS can return to superiority in this day and age.
When are we going to see it or learn anything about it??
The LC is disgustingly sick, just wow. But I'm dying to see the new LS also. That car is lonnnnnng overdue for a redesign. Interested to see if the LS can return to superiority in this day and age.
01-11-16, 09:41 PM
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Hopefully not too far away, I still remember seeing the current LS at the 2006 Detroit Auto Show. 10 freakin' years later and they're still selling the same car with a few changes here and there!
01-11-16, 10:00 PM
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Rumor has it the next LS will be aimed more at the XJ, Panamera, Quattroporte and Rapide than traditional competitors like the A8, 7-Series, and S-Class this go around. If the LC with it's exotic look and likely great finesse is any indication of the 5th generation LS which it shares its chassis with, it will likely be a great ride. The LC also uses a 10-Speed transmission, LS will likely follow suit.
01-11-16, 11:11 PM
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I have a feeling the LS will debut towards the end of the year, or even at next years Detroit show. It has similar styling cues to the LC so the two should be on sale at around the same time. If the LC comes out in 2017, I would expect the LS to also be a 2017/8 model
01-11-16, 11:11 PM
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The next LS needs to aim squarely at the S-Class.
Pure luxury before anything else, which is the LS' legacy IMO.
01-11-16, 11:36 PM
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With the LC revealed. I have no doubt that Lexus will deliver something close to the LF-FC for the next LS. It NEEDS to be at least the quality of the LC in order to be taken seriously after such a long baking time.
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01-12-16, 07:22 AM
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i'm glad someone else also thinks that the LS needs to become less sporty. it definitely needs to become faster but more than anything needs to be a soft cruiser with 6-7 gears max and squishy couch cushion seats. i've sat in a new LS and i'd take the seats in my 99 in a heartbeat.
01-12-16, 11:22 PM
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There's a short write-up in the LC 500 First-Look Review by Motor Trend:
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...t-look-review/
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The note about the the next LS using the new "Inertia Spec" platform of the LC 500, and how that could be how the LF-FC was shorter in height than the S-Class but doesn't sacrifice headroom. I'm super excited for the LS now after having seen the LC!
At last October’s Tokyo Motor Show, Lexus showed the LF-FC concept, a strong indication of the style and size of the next-generation LS flagship. When it makes its debut sometime around fall 2017, the LS will be the second vehicle to use Lexus’ new Inertia Spec platform.
Measuring 208.7 inches long, 78.7 inches wide, and 55.6 inches tall, the LF-FC concept is longer (+2.2 inches) and wider (+3.9) than the Mercedes-Benz S550 but noticeably shorter (-3.1), suggesting the Inertia Spec’s lower hip point allowed Lexus to drop the roofline without sacrificing headroom. Lexus didn’t release the FC’s wheelbase, but it will likely grow from that of the current long-wheelbase LS (121.7 inches) to a span closer to the S550’s 124.6, to ensure back-seat room is on par with that of the benchmark Benz.
Although the concept uses a hydrogen fuel cell with trick in-wheel motors, the production car will launch with a gas V-8—likely naturally aspirated to start with a twin-turbo variant to follow—though Lexus hints that a top-tier fuel cell LS is in the cards. Expect some level of the concept’s gesture control human-machine interface and much of its L-Finesse design language to carry over to production.
Measuring 208.7 inches long, 78.7 inches wide, and 55.6 inches tall, the LF-FC concept is longer (+2.2 inches) and wider (+3.9) than the Mercedes-Benz S550 but noticeably shorter (-3.1), suggesting the Inertia Spec’s lower hip point allowed Lexus to drop the roofline without sacrificing headroom. Lexus didn’t release the FC’s wheelbase, but it will likely grow from that of the current long-wheelbase LS (121.7 inches) to a span closer to the S550’s 124.6, to ensure back-seat room is on par with that of the benchmark Benz.
Although the concept uses a hydrogen fuel cell with trick in-wheel motors, the production car will launch with a gas V-8—likely naturally aspirated to start with a twin-turbo variant to follow—though Lexus hints that a top-tier fuel cell LS is in the cards. Expect some level of the concept’s gesture control human-machine interface and much of its L-Finesse design language to carry over to production.
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The note about the the next LS using the new "Inertia Spec" platform of the LC 500, and how that could be how the LF-FC was shorter in height than the S-Class but doesn't sacrifice headroom. I'm super excited for the LS now after having seen the LC!
01-13-16, 05:03 AM
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Personally, I love the fact that Lexus is carving its own distinct identity while Mercedes has doubled down on its pure luxury theme.
01-13-16, 07:44 AM
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i'm glad someone else also thinks that the LS needs to become less sporty. it definitely needs to become faster but more than anything needs to be a soft cruiser with 6-7 gears max and squishy couch cushion seats. i've sat in a new LS and i'd take the seats in my 99 in a heartbeat.
01-13-16, 08:04 AM
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i'm glad someone else also thinks that the LS needs to become less sporty. it definitely needs to become faster but more than anything needs to be a soft cruiser with 6-7 gears max and squishy couch cushion seats. i've sat in a new LS and i'd take the seats in my 99 in a heartbeat.
01-13-16, 08:19 AM
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The two things in bold seem to contradict one another. The closer-spaced the gearset is, the smoother the shifts are going to be. If CVTs were perfect (and we all know they're not), that's what you would want in a Luxo-cruiser. High-gear-count traditional autos are the next best thing to that nonexistent ideal.
idk there's just something about being able to enjoy each gear for longer that i like, rather than having something that's constantly shifting. all i know is the 2014-15 MDX with the 6 speed worked very well but the 2016 with the ZF 9 speed was kind of crap. then again this 10 speed is completely different so we'll have to see.
01-13-16, 08:33 AM
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my 5 speed shifts pretty damn smoothly, and i'm pretty sure the 4 speed before it shifted equally smoothly. and by smoothly i mean you literally don't feel it shift.
idk there's just something about being able to enjoy each gear for longer that i like, rather than having something that's constantly shifting. all i know is the 2014-15 MDX with the 6 speed worked very well but the 2016 with the ZF 9 speed was kind of crap. then again this 10 speed is completely different so we'll have to see.
idk there's just something about being able to enjoy each gear for longer that i like, rather than having something that's constantly shifting. all i know is the 2014-15 MDX with the 6 speed worked very well but the 2016 with the ZF 9 speed was kind of crap. then again this 10 speed is completely different so we'll have to see.
The ZF 8-speed is a much better example of a much smoother transmission. Personally I can't stand the transmission in your LS because of the amount of torque converter slip. I love modern automatics because the torque converter locks up very early.
