81K Porsche or 67K Lexus RCF?
#32
The RC F will likely last longer, have more comfort, luxury (debatable), better value imo, stronger engine, better sound and is cheaper. The Porsche is a more sporty car, but unless you're a race driver or tracking, there's nothing it can do a lot better except give you the wind in your hair and the title of "Porsche owner".
#33
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to you.
people who buy boxsters (and porsches overall) are typically VERY enthusiastic about their purchase, and yeah, it's an extravagant thing, but so are many things to many people. it may not float your boat, but that doesn't mean it isn't "worth it" to others.
and of course lexus makes no money on an rcf.
as far as 'worth it' - i personally don't get owning a 911 turbo, even if i was ok spending that kind of money because it is SO FAST to me it's boring. you can get to 100mph in a few seconds with no effort, and then what? handling is spectacular, but so is a regular 911. if i were going to spend that kind of money i'd enjoy the GT3 much more.
people who buy boxsters (and porsches overall) are typically VERY enthusiastic about their purchase, and yeah, it's an extravagant thing, but so are many things to many people. it may not float your boat, but that doesn't mean it isn't "worth it" to others.
and of course lexus makes no money on an rcf.
as far as 'worth it' - i personally don't get owning a 911 turbo, even if i was ok spending that kind of money because it is SO FAST to me it's boring. you can get to 100mph in a few seconds with no effort, and then what? handling is spectacular, but so is a regular 911. if i were going to spend that kind of money i'd enjoy the GT3 much more.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
#34
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lol. you're sure, huh? i don't think porsche has much of a problem with brand loyalty or buyer's remorse.
#35
Talk is cheap, when you drive them, you will certainly like one over another for various reasons.
#36
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Yea, they buy it because of branding, they are enthusiastic to own a Porsche, not necessarily that they spent $81k on a dinky compact sports convertible.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
It's obvious you have never driven a Box.
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Yea, they buy it because of branding, they are enthusiastic to own a Porsche, not necessarily that they spent $81k on a dinky compact sports convertible.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
Yes, Porsche options are notoriously pricey, but if you are looking for a sports car than the 981 is a no brainer. From a balance and driving dynamics perspective, it is leagues ahead of the RCF and 997, turbo or otherwise for that matter. If you want a rocket ship then by all means get a 997TT but it doesn't sound like that's the priority.
If you want a fast and comfortable GT with distinctive style, then RCF is your best bet, but you don't get a convertible.
Good luck!
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Yea, they buy it because of branding, they are enthusiastic to own a Porsche, not necessarily that they spent $81k on a dinky compact sports convertible.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
There is a disconnect between the branding and the product, which in the long term will only lead to buyer's remorse, something I'm sure historically most Boxster owners are familiar with.
#39
Another vote here for the Cayman. It may run a few you a few grand more, but I like the solid roof!
After owning a Cayenne for the past two years, whenever the wife talks about her next vehicle, it's more in terms of which Porsche she wants next. You better believe Porsche builds brand loyalty...
After owning a Cayenne for the past two years, whenever the wife talks about her next vehicle, it's more in terms of which Porsche she wants next. You better believe Porsche builds brand loyalty...
#40
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That's not my point. I'm just trying to get across that most aren't going out on a high speed run for the fastest speed, but for enjoyment. The RC F may have lower limits than the Porsche, but on the street, you're probably not going to be approaching those. And for 10, 15k cheaper it's still a great buy to get 465hp and that sweet V8.
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That's not my point. I'm just trying to get across that most aren't going out on a high speed run for the fastest speed, but for enjoyment. The RC F may have lower limits than the Porsche, but on the street, you're probably not going to be approaching those. And for 10, 15k cheaper it's still a great buy to get 465hp and that sweet V8.
#42
That's not my point. I'm just trying to get across that most aren't going out on a high speed run for the fastest speed, but for enjoyment. The RC F may have lower limits than the Porsche, but on the street, you're probably not going to be approaching those. And for 10, 15k cheaper it's still a great buy to get 465hp and that sweet V8.
Compared to the cayman / box, the RCF is a pig. The cayman / box are the types of car where if you switch from one high performance summer brand to another, you can tell which one has a harder sidewall by the split sec change the car responds to your steering input.
The RCF, much like the ISF, makes good daily drivers and occasional spirited drive, I would compare it more to the C class AMG or any high power 4 door sedan
#43
You should really take a boxter or cayman out for a spin on some back roads, these cars are not about high speed enjoyments, they are about the agility and responsiveness on the twists and curves.
Compared to the cayman / box, the RCF is a pig. The cayman / box are the types of car where if you switch from one high performance summer brand to another, you can tell which one has a harder sidewall by the split sec change the car responds to your steer
Compared to the cayman / box, the RCF is a pig. The cayman / box are the types of car where if you switch from one high performance summer brand to another, you can tell which one has a harder sidewall by the split sec change the car responds to your steer
I have driven 993 twin turbo and I can tell you the acceleration rate scares the absolute you know what out of you it's certainly scares me. I look at torque as the number that tells you how quick you will get where you're going. I look at horsepower as how fast the car Will go.
#44
to you.
as far as 'worth it' - i personally don't get owning a 911 turbo, even if i was ok spending that kind of money because it is SO FAST to me it's boring. you can get to 100mph in a few seconds with no effort, and then what? handling is spectacular, but so is a regular 911. if i were going to spend that kind of money i'd enjoy the GT3 much more.
as far as 'worth it' - i personally don't get owning a 911 turbo, even if i was ok spending that kind of money because it is SO FAST to me it's boring. you can get to 100mph in a few seconds with no effort, and then what? handling is spectacular, but so is a regular 911. if i were going to spend that kind of money i'd enjoy the GT3 much more.
Just my thoughts.
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I have to disagree. The 981 chassis is spectacular (leaps and bounds better than the 986/987). It a better performer than the 997 and maybe a tad better than the 991 due to its size (excluding GT3 RS of course). The interior is a major step up from its predecessor. The 987 interior felt like it belongs in a $40k car, but the 981 has really nice hardware.