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The hybrids don't always correspond to the actual size of the engine.
The ICE in the LC500h is not a 5L V8, it's a 3.5L V6.
Right I understand that. In Toyota/Lexus logic, "500" refers to the power of a 5.0L V8 with the efficiency of a 3.5L V6. Like the NX300h is equal to the power of a 3L V6 but with the efficiency of a 2.5L 4cyl or the LS600h has the power of a 6L V12 with the efficiency of a 5L V8. So my question is in this day and age, what 5L V8 only produces 350hp?
Right I understand that. In Toyota/Lexus logic, "500" refers to the power of a 5.0L V8 with the efficiency of a 3.5L V6. Like the NX300h is equal to the power of a 3L V6 but with the efficiency of a 2.5L 4cyl or the LS600h has the power of a 6L V12 with the efficiency of a 5L V8. So my question is in this day and age, what 5L V8 only produces 350hp?
I don't really agree. The ES300h and NX300h each have what, 200 horsepower? I don't think that equates to any current 3.0 L V6. My old 2.4 L I4 Acura had 200 hp. The GS450h doesn't have 4.5 L V8 power (338 hp). I don't see how the LC500h is any different.
I don't really agree. The ES300h and NX300h each have what, 200 horsepower? I don't think that equates to any current 3.0 L V6. My old 2.4 L I4 Acura had 200 hp. The GS450h doesn't have 4.5 L V8 power (338 hp). I don't see how the LC500h is any different.
At this point the naming no longer has much to do with engine displacement or power, at least when it comes to the hybrid drivetrains.
I don't really agree. The ES300h and NX300h each have what, 200 horsepower? I don't think that equates to any current 3.0 L V6. My old 2.4 L I4 Acura had 200 hp. The GS450h doesn't have 4.5 L V8 power (338 hp). I don't see how the LC500h is any different.
That's my point. What's with the hybrid naming scheme? None of it makes any sense anymore.
That's my point. What's with the hybrid naming scheme? None of it makes any sense anymore.
the idea i guess is a 4cyl hybrid is meant to be the equivalent sort of, of a v6 (300?) and a 6cyl hybrid is meant to be the equivalent of a v8 (500?)... yeah things don't quite line up, but hp is only one part of it. the surge of torque from a hybrid can be quite impressive.
Hybrid nomenclature made sense at the time when Lexus first hybrids were being released. A 2007 RX400h with a 3.3L V6 and LSD made 268hp and a 2007 RX350 270hp. Most engines at the time were adequate but left a lot to be desired. A 2005 Explorer 4.6L V8 had 237hp vs a 2006 4.6L V8 with 292hp. An LS460 4.6L put out 380hp in 2007 and 386hp in 2013, and a 2010 GX460 4.6L V8 301hp. Fast forward and a lot of 3.0-3.9L six cylinders are making 300-400hp and V8's seem to be averaging 420-500hp.
A lot though has to do with the name and marketing too. Would you like to drive a CT180h or CT200h? Lexus hybrids aren't the only offenders. The Europeans are notorious for having a badge that has nothing to do with displacement. Why do the 330i, C300, 340i, and C400 monikers exist now? The bigger the number the better, mentality. A likely reason Lexus choose to use LC500h rather than LC450h.
bigger is better only if you can live up to it. i personally can't see how the lc500h can live up to it if anyone is remotely thinking about lc500 level kind of performance
Mentality can be a placebo effect especially if someone hasn't done their research. If they do think the h has the same performance as the 500 then one has to wonder how they've made it this far in life
10-06-16, 10:03 AM
Video: The Lexus LC 500 Unleashed at Goodwood Festival of Speed
