Lexus Says No To Chinese Manufacturing On Quality Grounds
#31
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#32
The problem is China will not say no, and innovate ( even detrimental) to meet the cost and profit objectives. If they cannot make the product, they should take a stance and refuse to make it. But they don't.
#33
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Hopefully I'm not talking sideways here, but society in Japan is a lot harder on people who cheat or fail miserably. The level of personal shame and shame brought upon their family is enough for most people in that country to not cheat the system, as you are ostracized by society if you are caught. A CEO like Carly Fiorina would never be allowed into a corporate leadership position again(or god forbid into a serious presidential candidate) after she left HP in such a mess if this were Japan.
There was a politician here who was put in jail for stealing campaign money and he was elected while he was in jail. Of course he could not fill the seat and had to disqualify himself. So people can't be too hard on cheaters for something like this to happen.
#34
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Made in China is not known for high quality. I personally avoid made in (communist) China products. I don't mind if it's made in Vietnam, Mexico, Canada or any country but China.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
#35
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Made in China is not known for high quality. I personally avoid made in (communist) China products. I don't mind if it's made in Vietnam, Mexico, Canada or any country but China.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
Media outlets love to take a quote out of context in order to sell their headline for more clicks.
Here is what was quoted:
Executive vice president of Lexus, Takashi Yamamoto, commented that there was “...too much quality risk in China to produce there.”
One of the world's most well manufactured products is made in China. Care to take a guess? APPLE. How many people are jumping on the "Lexus won't build in China due to low quality" bandwagon and have an iPhone in their pocket? or a China made laptop at home? Come on now, admit it.
Lexus doesn't have a good reason to build in China right now because their sales are good enough, their brand isn't strong enough to warrant such a strategy. Its not easy for Japanese brands to do well in China but maybe if they brand themselves well enough, sales would go up to the point where building in China makes sense.
RX built in Canada and ES now built in Kentucky, because it just makes sense.
#36
Lexus Test Driver
This is complete BS
Media outlets love to take a quote out of context in order to sell their headline for more clicks.
Here is what was quoted:
Media outlets love to take a quote out of context in order to sell their headline for more clicks.
Here is what was quoted:
Executive vice president of Lexus, Takashi Yamamoto, commented that there was “...too much quality risk in China to produce there.”
That said, training can't solve everything. It's nonsensical to say that because an employee negatively affects business in some way, it can only be because the worker wasn't trained sufficiently. Any number of factors can create systemic barriers that training can't overcome. It's for that reason that adaptation for local culture is an integral part of business methodology like JIT/TPS and is a huge part of TMC's global expansion process.
#37
Your absolutely right on point. They even go so far as to taint babies milk in order to spike the protien count on inspections. This lead to hundreds of babies killed. Of course the plant owner was found hanging not to long afterwards expressing regret in "his" suicide note. Then you had all the dog food laced with antifreeze that killed scores of pets. The list never ends.
They take little pride in the mfg of goods. On the family front though they LOVE kids, and take pride in family. Solid HARD working people just wouldn't trust them to make ANYTHING for me.
They take little pride in the mfg of goods. On the family front though they LOVE kids, and take pride in family. Solid HARD working people just wouldn't trust them to make ANYTHING for me.
#38
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Made in China is not known for high quality. I personally avoid made in (communist) China products. I don't mind if it's made in Vietnam, Mexico, Canada or any country but China.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
#39
Lexus doesn't have a good reason to build in China right now because their sales are good enough, their brand isn't strong enough to warrant such a strategy. Its not easy for Japanese brands to do well in China but maybe if they brand themselves well enough, sales would go up to the point where building in China makes sense.
RX built in Canada and ES now built in Kentucky, because it just makes sense.
Aside when there are political tensions like back in 2012, Chinese love and trust Japanese products.
Cars are not cellphones, they are much more complicated... Apple for instance does not own most of the technology that goes into their phones, outside of cpu, all of it is purchased from suppliers that have Chinese factories.
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Made in China is not known for high quality. I personally avoid made in (communist) China products. I don't mind if it's made in Vietnam, Mexico, Canada or any country but China.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
If Lexus were to be made in China I personally wouldn't purchase it however if Lexus were to build a plant in China I'm sure made in China Lexus vehicles would be sold in China and hopefully not exported to any other country.
Really living up to the stereotype that amerians don't know **** about anything outside of america
#42
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This is complete BS
Media outlets love to take a quote out of context in order to sell their headline for more clicks.
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Honestly, that could mean a lot of things but if Lexus made low quality cars in China, that would be on Lexus' inability to train their own employees to maintain strong craftsmanship, which we know is not the case since Lexus can build cars equally as high quality as Japan.
One of the world's most well manufactured products is made in China. Care to take a guess? APPLE. How many people are jumping on the "Lexus won't build in China due to low quality" bandwagon and have an iPhone in their pocket? or a China made laptop at home? Come on now, admit it.
Lexus doesn't have a good reason to build in China right now because their sales are good enough, their brand isn't strong enough to warrant such a strategy. Its not easy for Japanese brands to do well in China but maybe if they brand themselves well enough, sales would go up to the point where building in China makes sense.
RX built in Canada and ES now built in Kentucky, because it just makes sense.
Media outlets love to take a quote out of context in order to sell their headline for more clicks.
Here is what was quoted:
Honestly, that could mean a lot of things but if Lexus made low quality cars in China, that would be on Lexus' inability to train their own employees to maintain strong craftsmanship, which we know is not the case since Lexus can build cars equally as high quality as Japan.
One of the world's most well manufactured products is made in China. Care to take a guess? APPLE. How many people are jumping on the "Lexus won't build in China due to low quality" bandwagon and have an iPhone in their pocket? or a China made laptop at home? Come on now, admit it.
Lexus doesn't have a good reason to build in China right now because their sales are good enough, their brand isn't strong enough to warrant such a strategy. Its not easy for Japanese brands to do well in China but maybe if they brand themselves well enough, sales would go up to the point where building in China makes sense.
RX built in Canada and ES now built in Kentucky, because it just makes sense.
#43
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One day he wanted to take his family on a long trip and asked to borrow my then Sienna. I said sure but don't go sideways in it as the tires need to be changed soon. Few days later he came back he parked the car it was 11 pm and that was that. I woke up the next morning to the smell of new tires on my van. I had to laugh. In turn I've watched his kids when he had to go to work(night shift) over the years and other odd stuff. Solid guy. Lucky to have someone like this in life.
#44
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Well, even over and above Americans.........are you going to call the Lexus managers themselves stereotypical or ignorant, then? They have, no doubt, carefully looked at all the arguments (both pro and con), and maybe even others we have not mentioned here. Looking at that evidence, they have concluded that production in China is simply too risky to engage in right now. It is true, of course, that Buick has been a great success both producing and selling in China, but those vehicles are not going to the American market and to the average critical American buyer. They have made a business decision, based on the evidence.
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Well, even over and above Americans.........are you going to call the Lexus managers themselves stereotypical or ignorant, then? They have, no doubt, carefully looked at all the arguments (both pro and con), and maybe even others we have not mentioned here. Looking at that evidence, they have concluded that production in China is simply too risky to engage in right now. It is true, of course, that Buick has been a great success both producing and selling in China, but those vehicles are not going to the American market and to the average critical American buyer. They have made a business decision, based on the evidence.