SW17LS

They aren't as attractive as the S or the S Coupe no, but I don't see how one goes from "love" to "hideous" when comparing these two designs.

I also don't think the E Class is that attractive....but hideous?

blacksc400

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There was a C parked in front of my office, so I took some close look. The roof line is the problem, I think MB wants it to have better rear seat headroom so they make the roof higher than normal, so it doesn't slope down naturally, this created the weird look that I feel. I tried to like the C but I think it somehow looks 'imcomplete' I just can't seem to like it at all.
Well, the E has longer roof line so it doesn't have this problem

bitkahuna

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motorweek show this week had the new e-class. bottom line: john davis loved it.

even with just the turbo-4, it did 0-60 in 6.6 perfectly good enough for 99% of drivers.

can't find video online yet, but transcript here:
http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...edes-benz-e300

mmarshall

Are you watching John's reviews regularly now? You have criticized his style in the past.

I haven't inspected or test-driven it myself, but, from his description (and I usually take John at his word), it sounds like something with way too much technology for my tastes.

RXSF

With an E class on the way, if I haven't seen every other review on youtube yet, I wouldn't be looking for John's review either.

dseag2

Although I know this is an E Class thread, I have to agree with you on the C Class. There is something ungainly about the design. The wheel options also look small on it. I think you are onto something with the roof line. The body is pretty svelte, but the roofline adds height that makes it look out of proportion.

The E Class does have better proportions for sure.

rominl

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ridiculous amount of power in this size of car

bitkahuna

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The optional ceramic carbon brake discs are almost 16"

blacksc400

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Woot, amazing how AMG turned a boring design into something hot!!!!! Now I like!
it will be interesting to see how it go against the M5, as it's confirmed to have AWD and 600+ HP as well

bitkahuna

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i've watched the show for longer than i've been on CL i think, but that doesn't mean i have to like everything about the show... and i think davis is getting more normal (less phony showman voice) these days.

in a few years, it's going to be impossible to buy a new car that doesn't have tons of tech on it.

SW17LS

The AMG looks great. Too bad the one mere Vice Presidents can buy is so hum drum lol

TangoRed

They should be able to afford an AMG E43! Although that car doesn't look nearly as menacing as the AMG E63.

GS3Tek

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Yep, leave it to AMG to ALWAYS wake up a boring stock design.
They have my attention now

(I can't stand mb's current design....so hard to tell them apart.)

RXSF

glad they found a way to integrate more than 7 speeds into an AMG

Aron9000

That actually could be a bad thing. A lot of reviews on cars with these new 8 or 9 speed transmissions have nothing but gripes about the transmission. Says it won't pick a gear and stay with it, constantly hunting for gears, caught in the wrong gear, doesn't shift as fast, ie the transmission is just sort of lost/confused because it has too many ratios. Also the Benz guys who modify AMG models actually prefer the OLD 5 speed automatic because its way more durable and doesn't mind increased power.


"the E63 S 4MATIC does come with a special ‘Drift Mode’ feature that delivers power exclusively to the rear wheels as standard. The mode is activated in the "Race" drive program using the shift paddles, provided that ESP is deactivated and the transmission is in manual mode, and it remains engaged until the driver deactivates it again."

I wonder if drift mode, aka burnout mode, will make it over to the US spec models, or if our lawyers will kill it.