Tesla slammed by Consumer Reports, shares slide....
10-20-15, 07:54 PM
#16
I don't trust CR however if all the supposed hearsay about the LS 460 troubles was really prevalent one can beg the question as to why CR never went after Lexus like they did Tesla.
This is not the first time CR gives out high ratings to certain brands only to trash it later on.
This is not the first time CR gives out high ratings to certain brands only to trash it later on.
If anybody did trashing here, it was Tesla, by not doing a good enough job to maintain original perception of good quality.
And I'm saying that as a huge fan of Tesla.
10-20-15, 11:14 PM
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I dont think that is necessarily the problem. Autopilot software update was just seeded to cars and it is the most lax send driving feature out there. In the past two years, they have introduced awd, increased power, and the model X. Those falcon wing doors took a lot of engineering effort, whether you like them or think they are a gimmick. Those doors have sonar that goes through metal (without the nubs we usually see on bumpers).
10-20-15, 11:24 PM
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Odd thing to say when you consider the basics of the petrol burning car have hardly changed in the last 2 decades at the very least. Mechanically engines are almost exactly the same as when they were invented.
10-21-15, 04:48 AM
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There is no question that Tesla is pushing tech boundaries, but at the same time, they are skipping some steps when getting there which now cant be ignored by CR.
Tesla/Musk also goes after people/mags that post anything negative about company, with horde of blind evangelists behind them. So I have no doubt that CR will get attacked for this, which is again silly since they have praised Tesla for years.
10-21-15, 05:32 AM
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Tesla's situation is the flipside of Lexus'. CR reviewers really love the Tesla S, they called it the best performing car they ever tested. I suspect that if it were only up to them, they would recommend the Model S. But the actual owners reported that Tesla is not perfect after all, and in fact has below average reliability. CR can't ignore the result of its own survey, so it withdraws its recommendation of the Model S. Meanwhile, CR's reviewers panned several Lexus makes (notably the IS and NX), but the survey respondents tell a different story. Can't really ignore the mass of survey data that contradicts the opinions of some journalists.
10-21-15, 05:40 AM
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Tesla's situation is the flipside of Lexus'. CR reviewers really love the Tesla S, they called it the best performing car they ever tested. I suspect that if it were only up to them, they would recommend the Model S. But the actual owners reported that Tesla is not perfect after all, and in fact has below average reliability. CR can't ignore the result of its own survey, so it withdraws its recommendation of the Model S. Meanwhile, CR's reviewers panned several Lexus makes (notably the IS and NX), but the survey respondents tell a different story. Can't really ignore the mass of survey data that contradicts the opinions of some journalists.
I recall they didn't care for the IS250 but said the IS350 is a "much better choice".
10-21-15, 06:27 AM
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Yes, that's the way their particular system works. Their Road Test and Reliability info are two separate area. According to them they don't Recommend a car unless it does well enough in the Road Test and has Average or better reliability from their surveys. A lot of cars drive and perform well but aren't necessarily reliable.
10-21-15, 06:19 PM
#29
Not surprised one bit by this. Although Teslas ride nice, their build quality is very poor and you don't need to be an expert to see that.
Cheap materials everywhere starting with the paint and glass and lights, all the way to the interior which looks and feels no more upscale than a $20k Honda.
Cheap materials everywhere starting with the paint and glass and lights, all the way to the interior which looks and feels no more upscale than a $20k Honda.
10-22-15, 05:00 AM
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This would get annoying.
Tesla owners are complaining that the new 'autopilot' feature is accidentally steering them off highways
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autoi...ays/ar-BBmhA7W
Tesla owners are complaining that the new 'autopilot' feature is accidentally steering them off highways
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autoi...ays/ar-BBmhA7W