Despite Lost Sales, Infiniti Says Name Change Right Move
10-16-15, 07:12 PM
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Despite Lost Sales, Infiniti Says Name Change Right Move
SAN DIEGO – Changing its vehicle names two years ago to variants of Q and QX harmed Infiniti sales and awareness in the U.S., but company officials still believe it was the right thing to do.
“We saw a drop pretty much across the board when we switched names,” Sean McNamara, senior manager-product planning for Infiniti Americas tells media at a ’16 QX50 event here.
The nomenclature change was shepherded by former Infiniti President Johan de Nysschen, now president of Cadillac, to align the Japanese luxury marque more closely with its German competitors as it expanded globally.
Infiniti’s naming convention most specifically mimics de Nysschen’s former employer Audi, which uses A for its cars and Q for its utility vehicles. Both brands assign a number or numbers after the letters to indicate vehicle size, segmentation and price. For instance, the upcoming Q30 will be Infiniti’s compact car, while the A3 is Audi’s.
“We saw a drop pretty much across the board when we switched names,” Sean McNamara, senior manager-product planning for Infiniti Americas tells media at a ’16 QX50 event here.
The nomenclature change was shepherded by former Infiniti President Johan de Nysschen, now president of Cadillac, to align the Japanese luxury marque more closely with its German competitors as it expanded globally.
Infiniti’s naming convention most specifically mimics de Nysschen’s former employer Audi, which uses A for its cars and Q for its utility vehicles. Both brands assign a number or numbers after the letters to indicate vehicle size, segmentation and price. For instance, the upcoming Q30 will be Infiniti’s compact car, while the A3 is Audi’s.
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10-16-15, 08:13 PM
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Models names like G, M, Q, FX will be missed. Each had a charming character that matched the vehicles look and personality. From the sonorous exhaust notes of G35 coupes which traced roots, to burly V8 M45 sedans and FX45 crossovers. And of course a nod to the under-appreciated Q45.
10-16-15, 08:31 PM
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I agree that CT6 may not be the best designation, but, IMO, I found the XTS disappointing enough that what really matters is what will be under the skin of its replacement, more so than what they actually call it.
10-16-15, 08:35 PM
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nah, it wasn't the naming. That's just a coincidence.
Sales dropped because infiniti has a dated and inferior line up, just when competitors were bringing out better and better products.
They have a dated coupe, no flagship, no prestige, still selling the old g37, and the m35 styling repels shoppers.
They've got a sh** hand.
I bet lots of infiniti shoppers left for mercedes.
You could call the mercedes C-class the BBQ350c and it would still sell like hotcakes.
Call the 3-series the YUP3i, and it would sell as well.
Sales dropped because infiniti has a dated and inferior line up, just when competitors were bringing out better and better products.
They have a dated coupe, no flagship, no prestige, still selling the old g37, and the m35 styling repels shoppers.
They've got a sh** hand.
I bet lots of infiniti shoppers left for mercedes.
You could call the mercedes C-class the BBQ350c and it would still sell like hotcakes.
Call the 3-series the YUP3i, and it would sell as well.
Last edited by pman6; 10-16-15 at 08:45 PM.
10-16-15, 08:47 PM
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You say they have no coupe. The Q60, which, as you note, is essentially an slightly updated G37, is still sold in the American market, and Infiniti, to their credit, does have an all-new Q60 coupe in the works.
http://www.infinitiusa.com/now/futur...auto-show.html
10-16-15, 09:01 PM
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If I have no clue anymore what is what, I have no idea how do they expect regular people to figure it out... oh wait, they cant.
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10-16-15, 09:05 PM
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I still think that's just a cop out
They can't say "our products just suck"
so they blame the names.
Swap all of mercedes names with infiniti's, and infiniti's sales will still suck.
I'll bet $100000000 that E class sales would not drop if they called it the Q70.
10-17-15, 12:31 AM
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I have been an Infiniti owner for 11 years. I bought my G35 coupe in 2004 and it was a wonderful experience the whole time I had it. I was completely loyal to the Infiniti brand because it was catering to the sport oriented driver that wanted good reliability and value. Unfortunately, Infiniti has strayed far from that core experience. I lamented the Q50 as it became softer and more luxury oriented. It lost the nice handling and the cars also became way more expensive. Ironically, Lexus has now surpassed Infiniti in terms of sport. That was the day Infiniti lost me as a customer and I went to Lexus. It's not the naming convention. It is the products now that are killing sales
10-17-15, 01:27 AM
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I have been an Infiniti owner for 11 years. I bought my G35 coupe in 2004 and it was a wonderful experience the whole time I had it. I was completely loyal to the Infiniti brand because it was catering to the sport oriented driver that wanted good reliability and value. Unfortunately, Infiniti has strayed far from that core experience. I lamented the Q50 as it became softer and more luxury oriented. It lost the nice handling and the cars also became way more expensive. Ironically, Lexus has now surpassed Infiniti in terms of sport. That was the day Infiniti lost me as a customer and I went to Lexus. It's not the naming convention. It is the products now that are killing sales
In 2001 I had leased a Q45 and loved the ride engineering, quality, and service, even got my kiddo a 2004 G35 which according to C&D had taken the BMW 3 series head on. Since those vehicles I moved on to other brands, and the last ten years I wouldn't even visit the dealership, I am so repulsed by their stale products.
