Big Andy

It just looks so dated. The interior is particularly nasty.

mmarshall

Even with stability control, drifting high-center-of-gravity SUVs weighing between two and half to three tons is not something that one should undertake with any common sense.

mmarshall

My guess is reliability. Even though the Land Cruiser has a lot of electronic convenienence items on it, it is also designed as a true off-roader, and you don't want a (potentially) unreliable electronic parking brake getting you into trouble off-road.

Toys4RJill

My guess would be that reliability is the reason, but then again, there is a lot of electronics on board that would cancel it out.

For a hard core off roader, Toyota would tell you a manual hand brake can be fine tuned for adjustment for easing of a brake while gently working the gas throttle. You cant do that with a pedal or electronic system.

But then again, cost is probably the biggest reason. The new 2016 Tacoma has gone to a pull instead of the pedal.

mmarshall

It's possible that cost is a reason, but IMO, that would be hard to justify on a vehicle starting at over 80K.

Toys4RJill

You would be surprised how much cost control (not cost cutting in all places) the Land Cruise and LX have baked into their designs. More so than almost all other Toyota or Lexus products IMO. Although the Tundra and LS for 2016 are using a lot of the tech from the 07 models.

baddis es

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likely the emergency flare found in a lot of cars on that side of the world.

spwolf

can you please explain to me how LX cuts costs more other Lexus vehicles? You are confusing things again.

Hoovey689

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Ah thank you!

Toys4RJill

Really? You must be able to see some of it. How about the lack of a properly designed third row seat, where is the fold flat seating? How about the clamshell rear hatch that is unlike any of its peers? Dare I say rear IRS like the Sequoia? I can completely understand and respect that the 200 series is used it harsh conditions. But Toyota could offer some of these features for the American market at least.

Quadro

Dare say IFS/IRS on a G Wagon too? It uses solid front/rear and that must be cost cutting as well?

Aron9000

^ I actually like the rear tailgate on the Land Cruiser. I think Range Rover still has the same design, it gives you a great place to sit when you're "tailgating" and hanging out.

pbm317

Yup Range Rover (top one, not the Sport), X5, and LR4 utilize similar hatch back/tail gate split. I think it's really nice, in today's crowded garages you can still open the hatch part, where other cars with full hatch, it might not have enough clearance behind the vehicle and the garage door to open it up.

And although it can sometimes be a bit of an added reach to get something out when the tailgate is down, at least you're not rubbing against the dirty rear bumper of the car when you do so.

Range Rover offers this:

Hoovey689

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Shoe polish lad sold separately

Quadro

One of the Dakar vehicles with the new front