Lexus Makes IS 200t, but What Other Cars Should Get the Turbo Treatment?
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Apparently an RC200t model with the same 8-speed auto may be headed our way with an F-Sport package that includes a Torsen limited slip diff. So that's hopefully one less to speculate about.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-in...00t-89264.html
http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-in...00t-89264.html
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Whats more impressive regarding this news is that Europe is finally getting a basic RC. They did RC-F first and then RC second which in my opinion is a great strategy.
#19
Factory VVT turbo engine, factory LSD option and the same strong transmission as used in the 400+hp IS-F. The rest of the drivetrain seems to be able to take much more than this base engine puts out. It may have only "adequate" horsepower from the showroom but for those interested it looks to be easy to cure once the tuning community gets hold of this engine and it's ECU and begins to play with it.
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Not arguing the point that it could use an update, but I think the 3IS weight gain is over hyped on here. For a RWD IS350, it's 66 pounds, and only 34 pounds for AWD models. You shouldn't need 29 more HP to take care of 66 pounds.
2013 IS350 RWD - 3527 lbs
2015 IS350 RWD - 3593 lbs
The difference is 66 lbs
2013 IS350 AWD - 3703 lbs
2015 IS350 AWD - 3737 lbs
The difference is 34 lbs
2013 IS350 RWD - 3527 lbs
2015 IS350 RWD - 3593 lbs
The difference is 66 lbs
2013 IS350 AWD - 3703 lbs
2015 IS350 AWD - 3737 lbs
The difference is 34 lbs
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A CT 200t would definitely increase sales for the CT. Lexus should also expand the CT line:
CT 200t
CT 200h
CT 300h
And have available F Sport across the CT line...
It appears Lexus is content with the CT line. Lexus should follow BMW and expand the CT line with more engine options, awd, variants, etc, etc...
CT 200t
CT 200h
CT 300h
And have available F Sport across the CT line...
It appears Lexus is content with the CT line. Lexus should follow BMW and expand the CT line with more engine options, awd, variants, etc, etc...
+1, 10 years of the same 306hp in the IS350 is strange for a luxury brand...supposedly using the best tech available (IMO)
Last edited by bagwell; 08-03-15 at 06:04 PM.
#25
Lexus needs to get with the times and start applying extensive use of aluminum to its lineup or get left in the dust in performance, handling and efficiency. This 2-second performance deficiency is getting embarrassing.
#26
The aggressive gearing of the 6AT in the 2IS 350 also adds a slight edge in 0-60 vs the RC.
The important thing is the RC is here, meaning it can be improved in the future.
Probably not until we see application of TNGA specifically in RWD format will there be any weight savings for the IS, RC and GS. LS and LC look to be the first to receive it, likely followed by the GS.
The important thing is the RC is here, meaning it can be improved in the future.
Probably not until we see application of TNGA specifically in RWD format will there be any weight savings for the IS, RC and GS. LS and LC look to be the first to receive it, likely followed by the GS.
#27
^^ That's a great point, Hoovey. All the work they are putting into the LC and LS chassis probably took longer than usual for them. The RC team probably wanted this technology first but needed to release their coupe on a much faster schedule than the LC. Also, currently the LS and LC's price points can probably better absorb the cost of this weight-reducing platform.
Current CAFE requirements (and the upcoming 2025 requirements) don't make that easy to do in volume trim levels but also, Lexus/Toyota offered six-cylinder turbos in some of their models from the very beginning, just not the variations sold in the USA under the Lexus brand. Arguably, until 2005 we were short changed rather than given the very best they had to offer.
This is, however, the first time any Lexus models have been given a four cylinder turbo.
It won't stop with turbos, however. Eventually pretty much all cars will need mild-hybrid or KERS style electric motor hybrid systems to meet CAFE.
This is, however, the first time any Lexus models have been given a four cylinder turbo.
It won't stop with turbos, however. Eventually pretty much all cars will need mild-hybrid or KERS style electric motor hybrid systems to meet CAFE.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 08-04-15 at 02:28 PM.
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I am not a very big fan of turbo charged engines, I do prefer N/A engines any day but I would truly crap my pants to see a CT hot hatch. They should've had that planned from the get-go. I don't think they should call it a CT200 F though.. That's too much, CT F would be suffice . They need to throw some DCT's in their vehicles as well. That would up the fun-factor quite a bit.
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