Consumer Reports finds some newer cars burn too much oil
07-03-15, 04:25 PM
#62
Lexus Fanatic
I hope the car manufacturers call out CR on their blantent disregard to state what is the truth.
CR needs to stick to reviewing toasters and also letting people know how long peanut butter takes to come unstuck from the roofs of peoples mouthes.
CR needs to stick to reviewing toasters and also letting people know how long peanut butter takes to come unstuck from the roofs of peoples mouthes.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-03-15 at 04:29 PM.
07-03-15, 04:40 PM
#63
Lexus Champion
It's not that vague, it says some oil. On the same page it talks about what happens if the engine gets to extreme lows.
The whole issue of burning oil is largely irrelevant as nobody on here noticed that the manual states that engines can burn oil until I decided to read the owners manual.
CR on the other hand is full of it.
The whole issue of burning oil is largely irrelevant as nobody on here noticed that the manual states that engines can burn oil until I decided to read the owners manual.
CR on the other hand is full of it.
07-03-15, 04:40 PM
#64
If they thought their engines should burn oil, they should have told that to the customer before they purchased the vehicle and then customer can decide if they will buy a car that spends 1l of oil per mile or not.
07-03-15, 04:44 PM
#65
Lexus Fanatic
are you trying to say it is ok if they burn oil because manufacturers have written it into the manual so they can decide not to repair the vehicle?
If they thought their engines should burn oil, they should have told that to the customer before they purchased the vehicle and then customer can decide if they will buy a car that spends 1l of oil per mile or not.
If they thought their engines should burn oil, they should have told that to the customer before they purchased the vehicle and then customer can decide if they will buy a car that spends 1l of oil per mile or not.
07-03-15, 04:46 PM
#66
Lexus Champion
07-03-15, 04:47 PM
#67
Lexus Fanatic
Toyota claims new engines burn more oil when new. CR claims that should not happen. I think I would listen to Toyota before I would listen to CR.
07-03-15, 04:55 PM
#68
Lexus Fanatic
Jill.....I think you pushed the wrong quote button in your last post (#67). You quoted and replied to yourself. Do you want to re-post it, or is that what you intended?
07-03-15, 04:58 PM
#69
Lexus Fanatic
are you trying to say it is ok if they burn oil because manufacturers have written it into the manual so they can decide not to repair the vehicle?
If they thought their engines should burn oil, they should have told that to the customer before they purchased the vehicle and then customer can decide if they will buy a car that spends 1l of oil per mile or not.
If they thought their engines should burn oil, they should have told that to the customer before they purchased the vehicle and then customer can decide if they will buy a car that spends 1l of oil per mile or not.
See my other reply two posts up.
07-03-15, 05:02 PM
#70
It's not vague. Some is not the saem as excessive which is not the same as moderate. Some is not very much, you are reading too much into it now.
Toyota claims new engines burn more oil when new. CR claims that should not happen. I think I would listen to Toyota before I would listen to CR.
Toyota claims new engines burn more oil when new. CR claims that should not happen. I think I would listen to Toyota before I would listen to CR.
Do you think it's reasonable and not excessive to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles?
07-03-15, 05:24 PM
#71
Lexus Fanatic
"standards for certain Audi and BMW cars say that it's reasonable to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles. Subaru considers one quart burned for every 1,000 to 1,200 miles to be acceptable, Consumer Reports said."
Do you think it's reasonable and not excessive to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles?
Do you think it's reasonable and not excessive to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles?
07-03-15, 05:54 PM
#72
Lexus Test Driver
I don't get the CR hate around here. I had a Twin Spark Alfa that used a liter of oil every 1000 km, sometimes even more, and that was with normal city driving. That was just above the upper limit stated in the manual. The dealer tore apart the engine and found mismatched piston rings were the cause. After a rebuild under warranty, the engine didn't use any oil. My next Alfa - stupidity strikes twice - had a FPT Multiair turbo and that lovely little engine didn't use a drop of oil.
So if the Italians with their dreadful reliability record can make engines that don't consume oil, why can't Audi and BMW? It looks more like bad design on the Audi turbo fours and BMW V8s, with heavy oil consumption triggered by a specific set of factors - driving load, average engine temperature, even gas quality? Who knows but those manufacturers need to stop pretending this isn't a problem.
So if the Italians with their dreadful reliability record can make engines that don't consume oil, why can't Audi and BMW? It looks more like bad design on the Audi turbo fours and BMW V8s, with heavy oil consumption triggered by a specific set of factors - driving load, average engine temperature, even gas quality? Who knows but those manufacturers need to stop pretending this isn't a problem.
07-03-15, 06:03 PM
#73
Lexus Fanatic
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-03-15 at 06:06 PM.
07-03-15, 06:14 PM
#75
Lexus Fanatic
"standards for certain Audi and BMW cars say that it's reasonable to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles. Subaru considers one quart burned for every 1,000 to 1,200 miles to be acceptable, Consumer Reports said."
Do you think it's reasonable and not excessive to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles?
Do you think it's reasonable and not excessive to burn a quart of oil every 600 to 700 miles?
Subura states the same.