SW17LS

And then won't hit dealers until October. Still a long way off.

Toys4RJill

I agree, I think this update will keep the LX570 on its current platform for another 5 years at least. I am also thinking that the next gen model will move or blend with the Sequoia, at least for the North American market.

malba2366

I don't think they could combine the LC and the Sequoia. Sequoia is a large SUV with the emphasis on interior space and towing while the LC is a serious offroad vehicle. The LC is sold globally and the sequoia is too big for that market. I think if the sequoia sells reasonably well they will keep that as a distinct model for the USA (and few other countries it is sold in) only as its development costs are probably not too high considering most of the parts are shared with the Tundra. I could see them dropping the LC in the USA and keeping the LX as the top Lexus SUV.

Toys4RJill

The LX would sell better if it were Sequoia sized which would better compete with the Escalade.

G Star

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Really hope Lexus pulls out all the stops for this next LX iteration, they definitely need some attention in the high end SUV segment, Mercedes and Land Rover are crushing it.

malba2366

Lexus is developing a large 3 row crossover that will have more passenger room...something more along the lines of the Mercedes GL than the Escalade. Escalade actually does not have much more room than the LX, and the ESV model is too large for most people. I hope they build a top notch 3 row crossover and keep the LX for people that want the capabilities and luxury of the LX.

UZJ100GXR

2014 yearly sales
GX = 31200
LX = 28600
LS = 18221
QX80 =16385
ESCALADE = 33065
GL = 51928
Range Rover = 53378

==

Land Cruiser 200 series ( LX twin ) = 121500
Land Cruiser 70 series = 59700
Land Cruiser Prado 150 ( GX Twin ) = 186500
Toyota Sequoia = 22181

Toys4RJill

And how many sales in NA of LC/LX, about 8000/combined units.

Toys4RJill

Everything on the Escalade as well as a Sequoia is larger than the LX570. I would consider the LX570 a 7/8ths full size SUV. The QX80, Escalade, Navigator and Sequoia are all North American full size designs and they all sell better in NA, I personally hope Lexus at least makes the NA version up to NA full size expectations next time around.

I do have to say, I do like the current size of the LX and I also like the stats such as GVWR, towimg and payload, as the LX is one tough SUV, but it would just sell much better in NA if they got the size right.

Aron9000

^ Toyota could do like GM, sell the Land Cruiser and LX in short and long lengths. It wouldn't cost very much to increase the wheelbase and put more rear overhang on the larger one, that's what GM does. It would make the larger one more likely to get high centered or drag the rear bumper off road, but there is no free lunch.

I doubt Toyota would do that though, their management is very conservative when it comes to changing designs that sell. I know the Land Cruiser and LX don't sell well in this country, but for the markets they were designed for(middle east) they have a 2/3rds market share, I doubt Toyota is going to change the formula one bit.

spwolf

GX sells mostly in the USA... If you asked me 3 years ago; I would have said that they will cancel GX but with updated model and its sales, I can see new design coming out with more US preferences.

Whole point of TPS 2.0 (TNGA) is that they want to be able to produce different models much more efficiently than previously... thats why we are seeing more options in new models.

Still, reality is that LX will continue to be similar to today and built for Arabian markets where they sell not only great, but increasingly greater every year.

But GX who knows.... TX is coming and will satisfy a lot of GX market.

Toys4RJill

Toyota could easily do multiple frame sizes for the next gen Land Cruiser/Sequoia. Right now they have two sepearte frames Sequoia/LC that are built to the same GVWR spec. So they could make multiple frames. Also, the last gen GX/Prado/4Runner/FJ had three frames sizes in production so they could do it.

My guess is that Toyota will enlarge the LC and bit and reduce the Sequoia a spec and that will be the next gen LC/Seq/LX. I hope they do that.

SW17LS

Only because its a Land Cruiser Prado in other markets, a vehicle that sells incredibly well.

spwolf

well, LC sells well too and yet rich people like their LX in GCC countries.... but they dont like GX.

So GX sells well only in the USA... where Lexus is to reveal TX. So I wonder how would TX and GX work out together in the market.

SW17LS

Do you have some sales figures to back this statement up?