Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Which Model Is the Flagship Lexus?

Old 05-07-15, 10:07 AM
  #16  
GS3Tek
Moderator
iTrader: (8)
 
GS3Tek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: so cal
Posts: 12,358
Received 162 Likes on 123 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
LS is the flagship while the LFA is a halo car that only Lexus fans believe in.

Its too bad Lexus did not make a $400k super luxury Bentley type sedan.
Mercedes couldn't make it with their Maybach, no way lexus is going to do that.
GS3Tek is offline  
Old 05-07-15, 10:45 AM
  #17  
UZJ100GXR
Lead Lap
 
UZJ100GXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: AK
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I actually liked the LX interior more than the LS until they updated the LS for 2013.

Looking forward to seeing what Lexus will do to the interior of the flagship SUV for MY2016.
I Hope they keep it on par with the LS and not a step below in terms of luxury.

Last edited by UZJ100GXR; 05-07-15 at 10:50 AM.
UZJ100GXR is offline  
Old 05-07-15, 02:19 PM
  #18  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

when did sales numbers become part of the equation for flagship?! come on, no one would ever think the 3 series and c class as flagships right?
rominl is offline  
Old 05-07-15, 04:05 PM
  #19  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,511
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rominl
when did sales numbers become part of the equation for flagship?!

Agreed...the LS600h certainly does not sell in large numbers (the average car buyer, of course, doesn't have $125K sitting around to burn), yet no rational person could deny it is the Lexus flagship.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 05-07-15, 07:38 PM
  #20  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,473
Received 2,498 Likes on 1,801 Posts
Default

I agree, definitely the LS.

And not because I have one now
SW17LS is offline  
Old 05-08-15, 05:16 AM
  #21  
Allen K
-0----0-

iTrader: (4)
 
Allen K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 9,149
Received 564 Likes on 386 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rominl
when did sales numbers become part of the equation for flagship?! come on, no one would ever think the 3 series and c class as flagships right?
Unless we go global. Then the Mercedes flagship is the A class
Allen K is offline  
Old 05-08-15, 07:19 PM
  #22  
-J-P-L-
Lexus Fanatic
 
-J-P-L-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,864
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OP, why would RX come to mind as a flagship vehicle? That's equivalent to thinking of the Rav4 as a flagship Toyota, all the while the $80K Land Cruiser exists. The RX is an entry level luxury CUV. You need to spend twice as much for the LX if you want a flagship Lexus SUV.
-J-P-L- is offline  
Old 05-08-15, 07:40 PM
  #23  
Ice350
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Ice350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 11,349
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by adpock


When I read the words "Lexus flagship," two cars raced directly to the forefront of my crowded mind: the RX and the LS. And they're still kind of racing.

Read the rest on the Club Lexus homepage. >>
The more I think about it the more I think its not worth discussing. I can't even fathom the thought of considering the RX as a flagship.
Ice350 is offline  
Old 05-08-15, 07:49 PM
  #24  
Trexus
Moderator
 
Trexus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: California
Posts: 4,317
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ice350
The more I think about it the more I think its not worth discussing. I can't even fathom the thought of considering the RX as a flagship.
Agreed...the two models that should have come into the OP mind is the LS and LX as flagships and not RX...as for the halo car that's the LFA...
Trexus is offline  
Old 05-08-15, 07:52 PM
  #25  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,473
Received 2,498 Likes on 1,801 Posts
Default

I can't consider the LX a flagship because its a rebadged Toyota vehicle. The flagship needs to be a Lexus-specific platform and vehicle.

Lexus was designed for the LS400, so the LS will always be the quintessential Lexus.
SW17LS is offline  
Old 05-09-15, 04:24 AM
  #26  
UZJ100GXR
Lead Lap
 
UZJ100GXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: AK
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Congrats on the new LS btw ^^ Beautiful.
No doubt the LS is the flagship Lexus.
UZJ100GXR is offline  
Old 05-09-15, 04:35 AM
  #27  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,473
Received 2,498 Likes on 1,801 Posts
Default

Thank you! Taking pictures today, will post!
SW17LS is offline  
Old 05-11-15, 07:17 PM
  #28  
Threxx
Lexus Champion
 
Threxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 3,474
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You referenced wikipedia in your own article... maybe you should have looked up the wikipedia article on the term "flagship" while you were at it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship

To summarize it for you - a flagship of any product line will be, generally speaking, the 'top of the line" product they make. And best is defined as fastest/nicest/luxurious/high quality/best picture quality/most features/most expensive/whatever other metric you would use to measure a product in its respective manufacturer's lineup.

"Best selling" or "best value" is not a metric for a flagship product. In fact the two products are usually (but not always) on opposite ends of the brand's pricing scale.
Threxx is offline  
Old 08-06-15, 03:25 AM
  #29  
GS69
Lead Lap
 
GS69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 4,213
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Exclamation AutoNews


Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus brand is planning to launch a 2nd top-of-the-line "flagship" model to accompany a new generation of its LS sedan, the head of the brand's U.S. operations told Reuters on Wednesday.

"We need a flagship. It doesn't have to be a sedan," Jeff Bracken, Lexus division general manager, told Reuters on the sidelines of an industry conference.

Bracken would not say what type of vehicle the 2nd flagship Lexus would be.

Last month, Automotive News reported that Lexus is readying a full-size coupe. Late last year, Lexus trademarked a pair of names: LC 500 and LC 500h. They are widely understood to be coupes based on the rwd LS sedan.

Sales of large luxury sedans such as the Lexus LS and BMW 7 series have slowed in recent years as affluent consumers have shifted toward luxury SUVs.

Rival luxury automakers have been winning customers with vehicles such as Tata Motors' Land Rover brand, the Cadillac Escalade from General Motors and large SUVs coming from the German luxury automakers.

The SUV surge has prompted even luxury brands with no history of selling SUVs, such as BMW's Rolls-Royce, to develop models to compete in the super luxury SUV segment.

U.S. sales have been supported by a prolonged drop in gasoline prices. Average prices at the pump on Tuesday were $2.63, down 25% from a year ago, according to the AAA travel group.

"In addition to the LS (a large sedan), there could be another flagship in our lineup," Bracken said. "We'll define what it is in January."

Lexus also is looking to strengthen its SUV lineup by offering a version of the midsize RX SUV with a 3rd row seat. An RX with room for 7 or 8 passengers is the No. 1 request from U.S. Lexus dealers, Bracken said.

A new RX is due this fall but will not have a 3rd row seat.

"We don't want to wait for a next generation" to add the extra seating row, Bracken said.
GS69 is offline  
Old 08-06-15, 06:51 AM
  #30  
wildeklave
Pole Position
 
wildeklave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the flag ship is the LS but the bread and butter vehicles are the ES and RX.

A flagship vehicle is the higher performance model that has lower sales but consumers aspire towards.

The bread and butter are the high selling vehicles. Some consumers buy them for the badge on front and have no clues about the engine or performance.
wildeklave is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Which Model Is the Flagship Lexus?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:46 AM.