Running BMW stolen from Linden gas station
05-04-15, 01:36 PM
#1
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Running BMW stolen from Linden gas station
I just never get this. Is it worth all of the hassle of being without your car, filing an insurance claim, etc., etc., just to save the 5 seconds of turning your car off, and restarting your car when you get back into it?
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Running BMW stolen from Linden gas station, tracked to Newark but still missing
Katie Lannan
May 04, 2015 at 10:26 AM, updated May 04, 2015 at 10:27 AM
LINDEN — An Edison man's $26,000 BMW was stolen shortly after midnight Monday morning after he left it running while he went into a gas station convenience store, police said.
The 37-year-old man was inside the store at the Exxon station at 11 East Edgar Road when he saw another man jump in his car and drive north on Route 1&9, Capt. James Sarnicki said.
A sergeant on patrol followed the car, with his lights and sirens on, but couldn't catch up, Sarnicki said. Police last saw the BMW as it headed into Elizabeth, traveling at a high speed.
The man's iPhone had been in the car, and officers were able to use the phone's tracking app to locate the car in Newark, Sarnicki said.
Linden police passed the information to the Newark police department. The car has not been recovered as of Monday morning.
The man who took the car was described only as an African-American man wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt and headphones. The car has the New Jersey license plate Z38ESF.
Running BMW stolen from Linden gas station, tracked to Newark but still missing
Katie Lannan
May 04, 2015 at 10:26 AM, updated May 04, 2015 at 10:27 AM
LINDEN — An Edison man's $26,000 BMW was stolen shortly after midnight Monday morning after he left it running while he went into a gas station convenience store, police said.
The 37-year-old man was inside the store at the Exxon station at 11 East Edgar Road when he saw another man jump in his car and drive north on Route 1&9, Capt. James Sarnicki said.
A sergeant on patrol followed the car, with his lights and sirens on, but couldn't catch up, Sarnicki said. Police last saw the BMW as it headed into Elizabeth, traveling at a high speed.
The man's iPhone had been in the car, and officers were able to use the phone's tracking app to locate the car in Newark, Sarnicki said.
Linden police passed the information to the Newark police department. The car has not been recovered as of Monday morning.
The man who took the car was described only as an African-American man wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt and headphones. The car has the New Jersey license plate Z38ESF.
05-04-15, 03:40 PM
#3
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Exactly. Either on a boat or stripped to pieces already. Newark doesn't play.
I never understood this thought process either but this happened to my Dad a couple years ago. Leaves car running, goes into a Convenience store, comes out to a guy jumping into his car and taking off. They found the car and guy later that night. The idiot picks up 3 girls and goes for a cruise and ends up in a high speed police chase where the car rolled over and all of them where left in critical condition (no seatbelts). Dad learned his lesson real quick.
I actually just read this a couple days ago.
Theft of Cars with Keys in Them on the Rise
It turns out, folks are increasingly making it easier for their cars to be stolen.
According to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB), car theft that occurs as a result of the keys being in the car is increasing, even though overall car theft is decreasing. In 2012, about 39,345 cars with the keys in them were stolen, while in 2014, that number rose to 44,828 vehicles.
NICB says that if those 44,828 thefts in 2014 were removed from the total number of car thefts (about 659,717), it would bring the total down to levels that haven’t been seen since 1966.
“Am I shocked by these numbers? Not one bit. In fact, I’m sure the numbers are probably higher, because we are only able to determine the thefts where the car was recovered with the keys inside, or where someone admitted they left the keys in the car or the ignition,”said NICB President and CEO Joe Wehrle. “Many times that is not admitted in the police report or the insurance claim.”
The top five worst states for these easy car thefts in 2014 were California (19,597), Texas (8,796), Florida (7,868), Michigan (7,726), and Ohio (7,452).
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-the-rise.html
I never understood this thought process either but this happened to my Dad a couple years ago. Leaves car running, goes into a Convenience store, comes out to a guy jumping into his car and taking off. They found the car and guy later that night. The idiot picks up 3 girls and goes for a cruise and ends up in a high speed police chase where the car rolled over and all of them where left in critical condition (no seatbelts). Dad learned his lesson real quick.
I actually just read this a couple days ago.
Theft of Cars with Keys in Them on the Rise
It turns out, folks are increasingly making it easier for their cars to be stolen.
According to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB), car theft that occurs as a result of the keys being in the car is increasing, even though overall car theft is decreasing. In 2012, about 39,345 cars with the keys in them were stolen, while in 2014, that number rose to 44,828 vehicles.
NICB says that if those 44,828 thefts in 2014 were removed from the total number of car thefts (about 659,717), it would bring the total down to levels that haven’t been seen since 1966.
“Am I shocked by these numbers? Not one bit. In fact, I’m sure the numbers are probably higher, because we are only able to determine the thefts where the car was recovered with the keys inside, or where someone admitted they left the keys in the car or the ignition,”said NICB President and CEO Joe Wehrle. “Many times that is not admitted in the police report or the insurance claim.”
The top five worst states for these easy car thefts in 2014 were California (19,597), Texas (8,796), Florida (7,868), Michigan (7,726), and Ohio (7,452).
05-04-15, 03:53 PM
#4
This is nothing new. This was all over the news when I was a kid. Ever since I started driving I've always rolled up all the windows and locked the doors at gas stations. I know people who still use the Club, have fancy alarms on their cars and always lock it and double check whenever they park, yet at a gas station, just leave it open, sometimes running. As if a gas station is 'base' (playing tag reference) as if nothing could happen. I don't get it.
05-04-15, 04:33 PM
#5
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This is nothing new. This was all over the news when I was a kid. Ever since I started driving I've always rolled up all the windows and locked the doors at gas stations. I know people who still use the Club, have fancy alarms on their cars and always lock it and double check whenever they park, yet at a gas station, just leave it open, sometimes running. As if a gas station is 'base' (playing tag reference) as if nothing could happen. I don't get it.
05-04-15, 04:37 PM
#6
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Thread Starter
Exactly. Either on a boat or stripped to pieces already. Newark doesn't play. I never understood this thought process either but this happened to my Dad a couple years ago. Leaves car running, goes into a Convenience store, comes out to a guy jumping into his car and taking off. They found the car and guy later that night. The idiot picks up 3 girls and goes for a cruise and ends up in a high speed police chase where the car rolled over and all of them where left in critical condition (no seatbelts). Dad learned his lesson real quick. I actually just read this a couple days ago. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-the-rise.html
I actually just read this a couple days ago. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-the-rise.html
05-04-15, 04:46 PM
#7
Lexus Fanatic
Some people use the excuse that their battery is weak, that the car may not restart if they turn it off. So, instead of spending $80 for a new battery, they take a chance on losing a five-figure car.
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05-04-15, 05:00 PM
#8
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With some vehicles, though, if the driver has the fob in his or her pocket inside the store, though, even if the engine is still running in the car outside, the thief won't get very far. Without the fob-transmitter in the car itself (or very close to it), the engine will die in just a few feet. if the driver leaves the fob in the car, though, WITH the engine running (and, IMO, only an idiot would do that), then, of course, it's fair game for a thief.
05-05-15, 05:49 AM
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With some vehicles, though, if the driver has the fob in his or her pocket inside the store, though, even if the engine is still running in the car outside, the thief won't get very far. Without the fob-transmitter in the car itself (or very close to it), the engine will die in just a few feet. if the driver leaves the fob in the car, though, WITH the engine running (and, IMO, only an idiot would do that), then, of course, it's fair game for a thief.
Last edited by tex2670; 05-05-15 at 06:36 AM.
05-05-15, 06:36 AM
#11
Lexus Fanatic
Hey, if I'm wrong on that, so be it. That's the way I understood it, though...the nearby transmitter is necessary to start or run the engine.
Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
yea thats not true, ive had my car running in the garage and went inside the house, yup still running. Would be stupid as hell if it just cut off
Perhaps I was unclear. What I was referring to was the need for the fob-transmitter in the vicinity of the car so the engine would start and/or start and run when the ignition-button is pressed. How close that range is varies by make and model, and I wouldn't know right offhand what that range is for BMWs.
That's the whole idea of the fob/transmitter, isn't it?....to only allow an engine to start or run when the device itself is in or close to the car? That's not necessarily a dumb idea. Perhaps in your case, 4TehNguyen, when you were inside the house with the engine running, it was still within range.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this (I've never owned a push-button ignition car on a day-to-day basis, but I've reviewed a number of them). From what I understand about them, that is the way they operate....and have for me during the review.
Last edited by mmarshall; 05-05-15 at 06:48 AM.
05-05-15, 06:53 AM
#12
Perhaps I was unclear. What I was referring to was the need for the fob-transmitter in the vicinity of the car so the engine would start and/or start and run when the ignition-button is pressed. How close that range is varies by make and model, and I wouldn't know right offhand what that range is for BMWs.
That's the whole idea of the fob/transmitter, isn't it?....to only allow an engine to start or run when the device itself is in or close to the car? That's not necessarily a dumb idea. Perhaps in your case, 4TehNguyen, when you were inside the house with the engine running, it was still within range.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this (I've never owned a push-button ignition car on a day-to-day basis, but I've reviewed a number of them). From what I understand about them, that is the way they operate....and have for me during the review.
That's the whole idea of the fob/transmitter, isn't it?....to only allow an engine to start or run when the device itself is in or close to the car? That's not necessarily a dumb idea. Perhaps in your case, 4TehNguyen, when you were inside the house with the engine running, it was still within range.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this (I've never owned a push-button ignition car on a day-to-day basis, but I've reviewed a number of them). From what I understand about them, that is the way they operate....and have for me during the review.
05-05-15, 06:58 AM
#13
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Aren't you given at least two fobs with a new car? You are with key-transmitters.
Hey, if I'm wrong on that, so be it. That's the way I understood it, though...the nearby transmitter is necessary to start or run the engine.
Perhaps I was unclear. What I was referring to was the need for the fob-transmitter in the vicinity of the car so the engine would start and/or start and run when the ignition-button is pressed. How close that range is varies by make and model, and I wouldn't know right offhand what that range is for BMWs.
That's the whole idea of the fob/transmitter, isn't it?....to only allow an engine to start or run when the device itself is in or close to the car? That's not necessarily a dumb idea. Perhaps in your case, 4TehNguyen, when you were inside the house with the engine running, it was still within range.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this (I've never owned a push-button ignition car on a day-to-day basis, but I've reviewed a number of them). From what I understand about them, that is the way they operate....and have for me during the review.
Hey, if I'm wrong on that, so be it. That's the way I understood it, though...the nearby transmitter is necessary to start or run the engine.
Perhaps I was unclear. What I was referring to was the need for the fob-transmitter in the vicinity of the car so the engine would start and/or start and run when the ignition-button is pressed. How close that range is varies by make and model, and I wouldn't know right offhand what that range is for BMWs.
That's the whole idea of the fob/transmitter, isn't it?....to only allow an engine to start or run when the device itself is in or close to the car? That's not necessarily a dumb idea. Perhaps in your case, 4TehNguyen, when you were inside the house with the engine running, it was still within range.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this (I've never owned a push-button ignition car on a day-to-day basis, but I've reviewed a number of them). From what I understand about them, that is the way they operate....and have for me during the review.
I can't say for sure that no car has such a kill feature; some people on Mazdas247 swear that the dealer can program the car to do this when the car is parked and you walk away. But I don't think it's the case--once the car has started, you can keep going without the fob until the gas runs out (but you'll get a warning light on the dash that the key is not detected). Every once in a while there's a thread about someone who assumed the car would shut off when they walked away, only to find out, hours later, that the car was still running. Even my 9 year old son knows what happens when you "assume".
Last edited by tex2670; 05-05-15 at 08:49 AM.
05-05-15, 08:15 AM
#14
This. It's actually very dangerous for a car to shut off by itself so no car does this. If the engine shuts off, you lose power brakes and steering and it becomes a huge liability for the manufacturer. I've actually driven a car back home after dropping someone off without the fob. She drove us there and took it with her. Only after I drove away did I realize I forgot to take it from her. The warning light stayed on but it drove perfectly fine all the way home.
Last edited by T0ked; 05-05-15 at 08:18 AM.
05-05-15, 08:50 AM
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This. It's actually very dangerous for a car to shut off by itself so no car does this. If the engine shuts off, you lose power brakes and steering and it becomes a huge liability for the manufacturer. I've actually driven a car back home after dropping someone off without the fob. She drove us there and took it with her. Only after I drove away did I realize I forgot to take it from her. The warning light stayed on but it drove perfectly fine all the way home.