Future of Lexus luxury SUV
04-06-15, 07:51 AM
#31
Future of Lexus luxury SUV
In search for my GS replacement, I narrowed down to the GX. Dealer is offering me an unbelievable deal on this. It makes me wonder why since GX has been a hot SUV since the refresh came out. I did some reading and it seems as if they may cancel this model in 2016 and introduce the TX and may do something to the LX as well. As we know this rumor has been fluctuated for a while now but recently came up again. Along with the deal they are offering, I wonder if it is coming for real. Does anyone have any insight news? I know Lexus is known to keep their secrets well as... cats hide their p**p (
) but some of you may know more. Thank you.
) but some of you may know more. Thank you.
04-06-15, 08:09 AM
#32
The 4Runner has outsold the FJ, though, by a significant margin, even though the two are mechanically the same under the skin and interior. Toyota would have less reason to pull the plug on the 4Runner. In some ways, it actually has a cult-following......I know people who swear by them.
04-06-15, 08:48 AM
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In 2013 Lexus sold 27,645 LX 570's. No doubt this number increased in 2014 and will increase even further once the updated version is launched. More than the Sequoia (26,202) - LEXUS LS ( 25,602 ) - Escalade ( 25,492 ) - Lexus GX ( 19,445 ) - QX 80 ( 15,894 ) - G CLASS ( 8404 )
After the sales hike for the GX in 2014 i think it is higher than the LX, either way both models are doing well in general i would say especially considering the prices and the fact they are based on the Prado + LC200 which are money making machines for Toyota world wide....
I could not find separate figures for LC 200 but combined with LC 70 the number is 172,072..... Prado 150 =154,336.....
To be honest though i am not sure how accurate these figures are...
After the sales hike for the GX in 2014 i think it is higher than the LX, either way both models are doing well in general i would say especially considering the prices and the fact they are based on the Prado + LC200 which are money making machines for Toyota world wide....
I could not find separate figures for LC 200 but combined with LC 70 the number is 172,072..... Prado 150 =154,336.....
To be honest though i am not sure how accurate these figures are...
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04-06-15, 10:48 AM
#36
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It's an interesting debate (to me). In the world market, the Prado (GX) and 200 series Land Cruiser (LX) are two of the most popular vehicles sold. Middle east, Australia, Africa are full of them and they are some of the most sought after vehicles. Toyota will keep these models going to serve those markets.
Here in the US - these vehicles are sold as premium Lexus models that many on this forum complain about because they aren't "crossover" enough. People seem to prefer a SUV based on a minivan chassis full of electronic gizmos that make them feel better about their product compared to their neighbor's.
I dunno - I guess maybe I'm the minority that sees way more value in a well-built, solid construction, high reliability vehicle that still rides nice and has creature comforts, but won't crumble on a dirt road or spend half it's life in a service bay getting its bugs worked out. This is why I stick with Toyota and Lexus - they seem to be holding tight to the origins of the SUV - utility. There are options (RX, Highlander) in the Toyota family, but I for one am happy that we still have ladder frame GX's and LX's to pick. If I wanted a minivan wagon I'd probably drive an MDX.
I wonder why the US market is so different than the rest of the world.
Here in the US - these vehicles are sold as premium Lexus models that many on this forum complain about because they aren't "crossover" enough. People seem to prefer a SUV based on a minivan chassis full of electronic gizmos that make them feel better about their product compared to their neighbor's.
I dunno - I guess maybe I'm the minority that sees way more value in a well-built, solid construction, high reliability vehicle that still rides nice and has creature comforts, but won't crumble on a dirt road or spend half it's life in a service bay getting its bugs worked out. This is why I stick with Toyota and Lexus - they seem to be holding tight to the origins of the SUV - utility. There are options (RX, Highlander) in the Toyota family, but I for one am happy that we still have ladder frame GX's and LX's to pick. If I wanted a minivan wagon I'd probably drive an MDX.
I wonder why the US market is so different than the rest of the world.
04-06-15, 10:48 AM
#37
In 2013 Lexus sold 27,645 LX 570's. No doubt this number increased in 2014 and will increase even further once the updated version is launched. More than the Sequoia (26,202) - LEXUS LS ( 25,602 ) - Escalade ( 25,492 ) - Lexus GX ( 19,445 ) - QX 80 ( 15,894 ) - G CLASS ( 8404 )
After the sales hike for the GX in 2014 i think it is higher than the LX, either way both models are doing well in general i would say especially considering the prices and the fact they are based on the Prado + LC200 which are money making machines for Toyota world wide....
I could not find separate figures for LC 200 but combined with LC 70 the number is 172,072..... Prado 150 =154,336.....
To be honest though i am not sure how accurate these figures are...
After the sales hike for the GX in 2014 i think it is higher than the LX, either way both models are doing well in general i would say especially considering the prices and the fact they are based on the Prado + LC200 which are money making machines for Toyota world wide....
I could not find separate figures for LC 200 but combined with LC 70 the number is 172,072..... Prado 150 =154,336.....
To be honest though i am not sure how accurate these figures are...
Anybody who thinks US market sales must reflect the entire world obviously never looked at the world map ;-)
04-06-15, 10:52 AM
#38
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Great deals are out there on the GX, they sell well really because of those deals...kind of like the GS.
04-06-15, 11:31 AM
#40
i don't consider the gx a cuv or crossover. it's a (very) off road capable and luxurious traditional (body on frame) suv. the 3rd row in the gx is not very useful, but it sells as a refined and comfortable (first two rows 
) TANK LIKE utility vehicle. it's obviously very thirsty and heavy and as the article says, govts around the world are clamping down more and more on anything they deem 'excessive' especially when it comes to fuel economy. hey i'm not knocking the gx, i almost bought one not long ago but the options and ordering rigmarole and dealer runaround drove me nuts.
the lx is an even bigger 'tank' and obviously both are AWESOME in off road situations. i've done lexus event off road courses in both - so much fun!
i could see the lc/lx and prado/gx continuing to be sold worldwide for a long while, especially where the govt car rules and taxes aren't so brutal (e.g., asia, middle east, south america, africa), although the lexus variants could die because they sell in such tiny numbers.
) TANK LIKE utility vehicle. it's obviously very thirsty and heavy and as the article says, govts around the world are clamping down more and more on anything they deem 'excessive' especially when it comes to fuel economy. hey i'm not knocking the gx, i almost bought one not long ago but the options and ordering rigmarole and dealer runaround drove me nuts.the lx is an even bigger 'tank' and obviously both are AWESOME in off road situations. i've done lexus event off road courses in both - so much fun!
i could see the lc/lx and prado/gx continuing to be sold worldwide for a long while, especially where the govt car rules and taxes aren't so brutal (e.g., asia, middle east, south america, africa), although the lexus variants could die because they sell in such tiny numbers.
i don't see lx dying at all
04-06-15, 11:33 AM
#42
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04-06-15, 11:56 AM
#43
In search for my GS replacement, I narrowed down to the GX. Dealer is offering me an unbelievable deal on this. It makes me wonder why since GX has been a hot SUV since the refresh came out. I did some reading and it seems as if they may cancel this model in 2016 and introduce the TX and may do something to the LX as well. As we know this rumor has been fluctuated for a while now but recently came up again. Along with the deal they are offering, I wonder if it is coming for real. Does anyone have any insight news? I know Lexus is known to keep their secrets well as... cats hide their p**p () but some of you may know more. Thank you.
) but some of you may know more. Thank you.
04-06-15, 11:57 AM
#44
04-06-15, 11:59 AM
#45
You should see how much the GX sales numbers jumped up by in 2014 when they did a front end refresh. Literally the only things that changed were the front bumper and spindle grill, and LED tail lights in the rear and they boosted sales significantly.
