bagwell

I'm guessing with new corrosion protection that has changed (except for Nissan)

curious, how has the maintenance been on this >>>> 2007 Mercedes Benz S550, PPackage II, AMG Sport Package, 19" staggered

Pamperme

This isn't necessarily so, and even if it was,, it's nice to know that u could if u wanted to without the insecurity, inconvenience and expense of breakdowns.

-J-P-L-

Nothing wrong with this article except that it's missing other Toyota's and Honda's. For example, the Toyota Yaris will run to 200K with less repairs and expense than any of those. Mine has 170,000, no repairs. Pretty sure a Ford F-150 can't go to 170K with 0 repairs. F-150 shouldn't even be on a top 25 list.

The idea that people don't care about such studies is ludicrous. Many people buy cars for the long haul. Toyota doesn't sell the most cars because they are the most exciting. A majority of people are not in the position of many Club Lexus members where a new Lexus is routine. I see tons of 25+ year old Civics, Corollas, Camry's, & Accords running around. Real people need these to keep going.

bitkahuna

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a yaris has nothing on it to go wrong.

again, i don't know of anyone except maybe you that EXPECTS a car to run 7 times around the equator of the earth with 0 repairs. i assume you mean unplanned costs too because all vehicles have maintenance costs.

my explorer (i just sold with 110K mi.) has 0 unplanned repair costs. it had a couple of items under warranty (cd player wouldn't eject, not a crisis), and 1 recall in the first few months, and that was it. i did no major service except oil changes until 100k. sure that's just one data point, but again, i know tons of people with old cars other than honda/toyota that are similar in reliability.

and the f-150 is after all the highest selling vehicle in the u.s. for the past couple of decades or more so it must be pretty reliable or reliable 'enough'.

25+ years, you mean from 1990 or earlier? those are pretty darned old! i also see cars even from the 90s that may still be running but they look like crap. i see lots of ls400's and acura legends around - great cars, but they look so old, fading paint, cracked trim, obviously completely lacking in today's conveniences, but yeah, they'll keep running, and running, and running...

anyway, no doubt people with no interest in vehicles or little money still need cheap transportation and there's plenty of it out there. if not, there's uber.

bitkahuna

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while vehicles on the list may be less likely to break down, it certainly doesn't mean they won't. friend with a well taken care of '07 civic with just some 70k mi. on it just had the a/c system fail. not picking on the civic but of course it's on CR's list and generally considered extremely reliable.

doge

My 2006 ML500 has 170K on the clock, the goal is to until it dies. I bought the car with 30k on the clock and aside from some air suspension issue the car has been pretty good to me.

evident

my 07 accord, while mechanically great, is rusting along the wheel wells and clear coat painting on all of the bumpers. never been in any accident before, but never garaged. no doubt the car itself will make it to 300K+, but how much of it is going to be a rust bucket

FrankReynoldsCPA

Oh, I'm not too inclined to purchase any on the list. I just can't get it up for Toyota or Honda.
And when Toyotas do have a problem, my experience has been that they are a real bear to work on, and parts are pricey.


Would like to backup what you said earlier about Fords being more reliable than most people think. Our F-350 is a tank. Nothing can stop it. I've seen TONS of F-150's with 300k+ miles on them. Ford knows what they're doing.

I look forward to many more trouble free miles with my Fusion(only have 30k right now).

JessePS

I thought the FJ Cruiser was unreliable

mmarshall

Unreliable is one thing it was not. Under the skin, it was mechanically the same vehicle as the 4Runner.

Pamperme

In reference to the bolded words:
Unlike ls400's, those Acura legends usually leave a trail of blue smoke behind them.

bitkahuna

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but they're still running.

but that's why i think this whole CR article is just another PR stunt. they are masters of the obvious but irrelevant.

Gojirra99

^^^ have you seen with the same frequency(or at all) cars like VW's or Audi's, etc. from that same era still running ? I seldom, if at all ......

mmarshall

Blue smoke usually means severely worn piston rings, valves/valve-seals, or bearings, allowing oil to get past them and be burned in the cylinders with the gasoline....meaning high oil consumption and emissions. If the smoke gets bad enough to be easily visible, it is often ruining the catalytic converter and oxygen-sensor as well.

Nextourer

Nope. In fact, I saw my first 2002 Audi A6 in a very, very long time.