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03-24-15, 09:38 AM

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Why does it seem incredibly hard for Toyota/Lexus to understand the concept of
UNDERSTATED ELEGANC'E ??

Toyota themselves used to do it!!

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i agree yowps3. they don't need giant black grills and overly busy 'mad max' designs.

When Lexus offered understated designs, people complained that they were boring (and *** forbid, feminine).

Now that Lexus is starting to offer more aggressive designs, people complain that they are not elegant enough.

Lexus just cannot do anything right, can it?

For the record, I drive a 2015 ESh. I consider it a rather elegant car, despite (or perhaps because of) the aggressive spindle grill. One reason my wife agreed to it is because she too agrees about how it looks (she dislikes both the NX and even the RAV4 because of the aggressive, protruding taillamp designs).

03-24-15, 10:01 AM

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Regarding this topic, man lexus is pretty good about being tight-lip.
Here we have no idea what lexus is talking about: a new car design or a new design studio

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Yep

03-24-15, 10:40 AM

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You are correct on the above. How much is too much? Where is that happy balance??

It seems though as each release get a bit more aggressive with that Spindle grill that it's turning allot of people off now.

I too am finding it difficult to like (appreciate).

03-24-15, 11:12 AM

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Love it or hate it; sales are up. So I think it would be safe to say that the general public likes it.

03-24-15, 01:47 PM

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Love it or hate it; sales are up. So I think it would be safe to say that the general public likes it.

correlation doesn't equal causation.

population is up too, plus economy has rebounded some, esp. stock market, plus more models available = greater sales even if pretty much nothing changed.

03-24-15, 02:23 PM

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correlation doesn't equal causation.

population is up too, plus economy has rebounded some, esp. stock market, plus more models available = greater sales even if pretty much nothing changed.

Than why has some other brands remain the same or even declined?

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03-24-15, 02:39 PM

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Special Edition of a Concept?

I guess...

03-24-15, 02:47 PM

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Special Edition of a Concept?

I guess...

It wouldn't be the first time.

03-24-15, 05:16 PM

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Than why has some other brands remain the same or even declined?

name me a brand (except mitsubishi

) that's down currently in the u.s. vs. 5 years ago?

03-24-15, 05:34 PM

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the whole scoop direct from lexus

http://www.lexus-int.com/lexus-desig...n-events/2015/
http://pressroom.lexus.com/releases/...milan+2015.htm

03-24-15, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

name me a brand (except mitsubishi

) that's down currently in the u.s. vs. 5 years ago?

Lexus is outperforming the market, so you cant win the argument there... But it is fine to dislike the design while recognizing it is selling great

... It is a fact.

03-24-15, 06:57 PM

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Lexus
2013: 273,847
2014: 311,389

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

name me a brand (except mitsubishi

) that's down currently in the u.s. vs. 5 years ago?

Sure, brands that have dropped in sales.

Cadillac
2013: 182,543
2014: 170,750

Volvo
2013: 61,233
2014: 56,366

Mini
2013: 66,502
2014: 56,112

Dodge
2013: 596,343
2014: 574,155

VW
2013: 407,704
2014: 366,970

Scion
2013: 68,321
2014: 58,009

Jaguar
2013: 16,952
2014: 15,773

Brands that haven't grown that much.

Acura
2013: 165,436
2014: 167,843

Infiniti
2013: 116,455
2014: 117,330

Land Rover
2013: 50,010
2014: 51,465

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Lexus is outperforming the market, so you cant win the argument there... But it is fine to dislike the design while recognizing it is selling great

... It is a fact.

This

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03-24-15, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yowps3

Why does it seem incredibly hard for Toyota/Lexus to understand the concept of
UNDERSTATED ELEGANC'E ??

Well, thank you! I'll send you the $50 later!

But in all seriousness, when I wanted to trade my GS F Sport for a coupe I did look at the RC350 F Sport. It has a nice shape but is just too overstyled for me. I went back to an S5 that has been on the market for 7 years and still found it beautiful without screaming "look at me".

If Lexus does introduce the LF-LC, I think they will tone it down a bit. I'm waiting.

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03-24-15, 07:33 PM

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A Lexus official has already confirmed that 90%+ of the styling from the LF-LC concept will make it onto the production car.

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03-24-15, 07:40 PM

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Than why has some other brands remain the same or even declined?

Which brands? BMW, Audi and Mercedes are up. They are Lexus' main competitors. Infiniti may be down, but they haven't introduced much new, decent product. Cadillac may be down because their high pricing predated their brand perception. I think even Hyundai, Kia and Lincoln are up right now. A rising tide (i.e. economy, household income, consumer sentiment) raises all boats.

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