TangoRed

2017 model year, so it'll be hitting in the streets late next year.

bitkahuna

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not sure why you quoted me about the mb sales on that scintillating fact but thanks.

ydooby

Good to see that the NX did not take away from the RX sales. Lexus cars look to be in need of a 2.0 turbo to be given a fresh boost.

RXSF

^^ pun intended?

spwolf

i doubt general public cars too much, maybe they will care if the price is significantly lower... in winter months, less cars are sold in general...

Maybe IS250, since IS2.0t will likely be significantly nicer drive, but at the same time, people obviously buy IS250 a lot so .....


Anyway, since Lexus and Toyota's growth outsold industry by far this month, questionable that they could be selling much better... there will always be few older models dwindling away.

As to NX, more of them should start coming in about April I think. They seem to be selling great.

Mr. Burns

Looks like the CT has taken a hit from lower gas prices.

spwolf

winter most likely.

Ayberk

Do you guys know the take rate of IS250? How does it compare to the take rate of IS350? I believe the turbo engine would help boosting IS sales. It's not about the price, it's about every car magazine but also normal people complaining about the 2.5 liter engine. It is not really up to date. 3.5 liter one on the other hand is still doing great.

spwolf

IS is selling good already, I agree about 250 engine, it offers little besides good NVH.

80% IS250 i think... IS350 is not that expensive so I am not sure that IS200t will significantly increase the sales in the US because people who care about speed always had IS350... but in countries where fuel is more expensive and they tax on CO2, it should do well.

This gen IS might likely become best selling IS of all times. With 2.0t, 300h and 350, it has good global lineup... V6 might also see new engine introduction, with better fuel mileage.

UDel

I am pretty sure the take rate for the IS250 is much much higher then the 350, I hardly ever see IS350's, our Lexus dealer does not even carry many IS350's because of the low demand for them. I would much rather them just bump the 2.5 V6 displacement to 3.0 liters and give it 250hp over a 4 cyl turbo.

Trexus

Total sales of each IS generation:

1IS (2000-2005) = 97,652
2IS (2006-2013) = 323,232
3IS (2014-Present) = 58,116

If you extrapolate the 3IS numbers it will come very close to the 2IS numbers so hard to say if the 3IS will sell more (or be more popular) than the 2IS. 2IS did have diesel variants but didn't sell too well. We'll wait and see how well the 3IS does. Hopefully Lexus expands the IS line and bring back the IS F.

IS 250
IS 200t (coming soon)
IS 300h
IS 350
IS F (Please bring back)

In the U.S. the ES still outsells the IS. I look forward to the day the IS outsells the ES...one more thing, when Lexus brought out the IS, ES sales shot up...

spwolf

of course, talking about worldwide sales... In general, US sales are very favourable for Lexus, as they are one of the market leaders . so even older models sell constantly (with incentives of course). However, huge difference worldwide, where Lexus models sell only if they are seen as contemporary (unless they are RX, which always sells everywhere).

Both 2IS and 3GS had wonderful start of sales worldwide, but after the 3rd year, sales started crashing... I believe 2IS went from something like 110k in first year to 35k in last year (2009 crashed to 43k) - similar happened to 3GS... thats not happening with 4GS so far and it is not going to happen with 3IS because it has very competitive lineup of engines incoming, as well as latest technology. For instance, 4GS sales are holding steady in 3rd year (ww) due to 300h introduction, and now both IS and GS will benefit worldwide due to new 2.0t with lower taxes and much better engine compared to 250 (i drove GS250, you dont want to know how it drives).

As to ES, it will always outsell the IS, thats why it is made ;-). Smaller, sportier but more expensive coupe will never win the sales race. However worldwide, they are pretty comparable in sales.

With wilder design, good choice of engines and tech, and of course being in popular SUV category, NX also has a chance to be steady seller worldwide without crazy ups and downs that happened to 2IS and 3GS.

Trexus

The RC is off to a good start with only the RC 350 and RC F. Hopefully very soon we'll get the RC 200t and sales will really take off not just in the U.S. but worldwide.

February 2015
RC 984
A5 831
G37 coupe 346

YTD 2015
RC 1,831
A5 1,674
G37 coupe 812

Since Inception
RC 3,753
A5 102,699

RC 200t (coming soon)
RC 300h (outside U.S.)
RC 350
RC 350C (hopefully coming soon to replace IS 250C/350C)
RC F

BMW does not separate the 4 Series from the 3 Series and lumps them together. I'd love to know how many 4 Series sell...428i, 435i and M4...

Lexus bring the RC 300h to the U.S.

spwolf

1k per month is pretty good for RC... i wonder if it can actually go any higher, i think thats about their goal as well. If 200t is priced $3k less, then it could do a bit better or maybe even out at those levels, which would be good.

If we check inventory levels, there are plenty of RC and RC-F (not limited at all, like some thought) at dealers while for instance, NX is in short supply. So NX has a lot of room to grow.

bitkahuna

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i doubt we'll see an is-f now that there's an rc-f. i know bmw has an m3/m4 but they've been at it forever.

i bet the is200t replaces the is250.

highly unlikely as the es is more mainstream (the perfect realtor's car ) and will soon be made in the u.s. to increase availability and flexibility.

correlation does not equal causation. although way back then, i could see someone coming into a dealer to see an is and thinking 'nice, but dang the back seat is too small - what about this es?'