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Old 02-25-15, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
I think C&D is on the right track. The C63 will be the true porker here.
The new M177 weighs only 20lbs more than the 156, the w205 is a lighter car than the w204.

Chris Harris said that the C63 tips the scales at 1650kg or 3660lbs...

I dont see how you came to your conclusion. Why would the RWD C63 weigh more than the AWD C450??
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Originally Posted by yowps3
The numbers never represent actual reality.

My IS350 is heavier than the Camry V6, yet every time I drive the Camry it has a heavier feel to it..
That means nothing lol... Im baffled by the comparison. Your camry has lighter steering and is more softly sprung . What you are feeling is the weight shifting and body roll.
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Originally Posted by doge
The new M177 weighs only 20lbs more than the 156, the w205 is a lighter car than the w204.

Chris Harris said that the C63 tips the scales at 1650kg or 3660lbs...

I dont see how you came to your conclusion. Why would the RWD C63 weigh more than the AWD C450??
Because I don't think the C450 actually weighs 3700lbs nor the C63 3660lbs.. We'll see- I'll wait for the C&D numbers for both models.
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Originally Posted by doge
The new M177 weighs only 20lbs more than the 156, the w205 is a lighter car than the w204.

Chris Harris said that the C63 tips the scales at 1650kg or 3660lbs...

I dont see how you came to your conclusion. Why would the RWD C63 weigh more than the AWD C450??
did he weigh it himself or is he just repeating the same numbers we've all read online. How would this car lose 400# (previous C63 was close to 4000# in tests) all of a sudden if the powerplants are close to the same weight.

Like I had mentioned in the RCF forum the AMG GT weighs 3460# a 2 seater car that has CF components, 93% aluminum, and a magnesium module in front of the engine. So a C63 sedan that is 8" longer, 6" taller, does not have extensive use of CF or aluminum is only going to weigh 150# more?

3850# in this loaded C400 4matic
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review

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It's not looking so good for this model...porky over weight gs front end pasted on old is chassis, left-over underpowered na engine from the yesteryears that don't belong in the turbo world anymore, finished it up with an anemic transmission and a weird styling. This thing is pretty much put together from toyota's left over parts bin and it shows.

I am not sugar coating my comments but it's the truth. I don't think it's gonna look good for rc-f fans...so fan boys better prepare themselves before they watch the show.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i agree that's what it should be, but if high profile gear heads said the m4 sucked, i believe it WOULD hurt sales. fortunately the m4 does not suck.
Except on a certain subforum on CL...

Hahahahaha
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Because I don't think the C450 actually weighs 3700lbs nor the C63 3660lbs.. We'll see- I'll wait for the C&D numbers for both models.
So your going off of pure speculation.

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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
did he weigh it himself or is he just repeating the same numbers we've all read online. How would this car lose 400# (previous C63 was close to 4000# in tests) all of a sudden if the powerplants are close to the same weight.

Like I had mentioned in the RCF forum the AMG GT weighs 3460# a 2 seater car that has CF components, 93% aluminum, and a magnesium module in front of the engine. So a C63 sedan that is 8" longer, 6" taller, does not have extensive use of CF or aluminum is only going to weigh 150# more?

3850# in this loaded C400 4matic
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review
The amg gt uses lots of SLS components, heavy duty race car kit hence the weight.

The c400 has awd that can easily add 200lbs.

The M276 Dela 30 weighs about as much as the M177 so I ask again, where dose the 400lbs come from?
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Originally Posted by doge
So your going off of pure speculation, also know as taking out of your ***.
that last part is uncalled for. please knock it off.
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Originally Posted by doge
So your going off of pure speculation, also know as taking out of your ***.
Call it what you want. I will put money down that this will go over 3660lbs. when it hits C&D's scales. And to be clear, I never presented it as anything but a hunch.
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Originally Posted by doge
He'll compliment they styling
I'm betting he won't compliment the styling.

We'll see if I have to eat my words after the show airs.
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Originally Posted by pman6
I'm betting he won't compliment the styling.

We'll see if I have to eat my words after the show airs.
in an earlier episode during the news, they talked about the RCF and JC and JM said "they quite like it"
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HILARIOUS

JC butchered the RCF.

the RCF is

Fat and useless.... really fat.
the M4 just walks away from it in a drag race.
I'm being humiliated.
lots of understeer and electronic interference.
Lurchy
*sets sport+*
*drives off the track onto the grass*

I really don't like this car.... don't like the way it looks, the way it goes, don't like the way it feels.
but what really gets me is that I know lexus can do so much better.

*segues to LFA*

and look at the difference in styling. See how the [RCF] looks like that stupid food that is drizzled in ?? and served on a bed of stupid beans to idiots in overpriced restaurants

(I know there's a huge difference in price), but surely they could have captured some of the essence of the LFA

told you he would yearn for the LFA

and the biggest insult was that he wouldn't let the Stig take it around the track. So we'll never know how fast it is compared to the old ISF

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expected but still painful to watch
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Brutal. Did a drag against the M4 and it was beaten quite handily. Rough episode for Lexus. He wanted them to capture some of the soul of the LFA and put it in the RCF but they didn't
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