J.P.

OK we get it, all German cars are poor handling pigs and uber dangerous !!! I mean are we really talking oversteer when the guy floors it from a roll while driving straight with TC off? Guess we should just ban all cars over 200hp in that case.

natnut

If a road car needs TC on just to maintain contact with the road surface while going in a straight line then something is very wrong. That shows that the chassis is inherently unbalanced for the power it's putting down.

The M4 lost control at low speeds on a straight level road. Imagine this happening on a high speed track while negotiating a chicane. Any one other than a professional race car driver might be looking at a long hospital stay.

primecut

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Which BS model are you referring to, and what weirdness equates to a really bad drive? With comments like that, I sure hope you have a Huayra in your garage.

Any RWD car with decent power and TC off WILL break loose, straight line or not, with enough throttle. It's up to the driver to provide proper steering input and throttle adjustment at that point. You can probably do it with a family car. What does that have anything remotely to do with the chassis being balanced?

4TehNguyen

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you can lose it easier on a turbo car when the boost kicks in. Thats where the non linear throttle comes into play. Porsche went to AWD on 911 turbos in the 90s for a reason. Now the new BMW M lead is talking about AWD on M cars for the exact same reason.

gymratter

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/3979532693001

http://lexusenthusiast.com/2015/01/2...rc-f-top-gear/

Mr Bond

This is what can happen if you floor any car with power on an uneven public road with traction turned off. This can easily happen with an auto shifting down to lower gear in N/A engine as well.

This video only shows what not to do on public roads. Drive with trc on and this wont happen even on a 1300 hp koenigsegg.

GS3Tek

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Yikes!
It's ok. It's a lease anyway