RC F Video From Top Gear
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RC F Video From Top Gear
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Oh really?
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
But the nose doesn't dive
that driver is the exception. Nose is so light that it flies through the air.
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Oh really?
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
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My point is :
if the M4 has such a twitchy rear end that it can go into an uncontrolled oversteer on a straight road, imagine how much of a nightmare to handle it would be on a racetrack?
My contention is that in the hands of a non-professional non-race car driver, an RCF would make a better track car than an M4.
Fewer crashes from uncontrolled oversteer, more time enjoying cutting the apex than worrying about how your rear end might suddenly overtake your front,cause you to crash and make your wife a widow.
if the M4 has such a twitchy rear end that it can go into an uncontrolled oversteer on a straight road, imagine how much of a nightmare to handle it would be on a racetrack?
My contention is that in the hands of a non-professional non-race car driver, an RCF would make a better track car than an M4.
Fewer crashes from uncontrolled oversteer, more time enjoying cutting the apex than worrying about how your rear end might suddenly overtake your front,cause you to crash and make your wife a widow.
Last edited by natnut; 01-27-15 at 07:28 AM.
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actually it shows how hard M4 is to drive fast... if you think thats good, thats great. But anyway, it is a fact that for same track times, you have to work a LOT hard in M4 than in RC-F.
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Even Black Series was really a bad drive. Like a sports car for the street but not really, something weird in between but my god that butt wanted to sway no matter what.
Oversteer is not my thing. I like when car oozes confidence when you drive it hard and keeps its composure. If the car twitches I twitch two times more, don't like that feeling at all. That's also how every M5 to date was tuned, they knew they couldn't make it into a larger M3 so they made it skid just a little bit in every turn to inject that "ooohm its a sports car" in your head while it was just a loose traction control.
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Oh really?
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
Must explain why their track times are statistically the same.
This is an example of the M4 being graceful and easy to handle :
BMW M4 Crash @ CARS & COFFEE Blackhawk 2015 - YouTube
Such GRACE!
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I don't think any pros complained about how hard it is to drive. They actually enjoyed the oversteer and drifting
I'm surprised the weight distro is actually 55/45 compared to 52/48 for the M4. But the RCF is much heavier, and that must be why it dives and moves like a yacht.
I'm surprised the weight distro is actually 55/45 compared to 52/48 for the M4. But the RCF is much heavier, and that must be why it dives and moves like a yacht.
Last edited by pman6; 01-27-15 at 04:55 PM.
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A yacht that doesn't go into uncontrolled oversteer on a straight road like the "graceful" M4. That despite being "heavier" and "diving" is practically as fast as the M4 on the Motortrend test track.
People mistake lairy and exhausting as better handling. A smart driver knows that the best handling car is one that is forgiving yet allows the driver to be consistently fast over multiple laps. An M4 driver will soon be exhausted/fatigued trying to keep his car from spinning out after a few laps.
When driver fatigue sets in (much sooner for the M4 driver I suspect), let's see if he can maintain that fraction of a second lap advantage over the RCF driver.
People mistake lairy and exhausting as better handling. A smart driver knows that the best handling car is one that is forgiving yet allows the driver to be consistently fast over multiple laps. An M4 driver will soon be exhausted/fatigued trying to keep his car from spinning out after a few laps.
When driver fatigue sets in (much sooner for the M4 driver I suspect), let's see if he can maintain that fraction of a second lap advantage over the RCF driver.