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Old 01-26-15, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
I think Toyota, being a humongous company that they are, needs to have various design languages that cater to multiple markets and cultures.

Of course, aesthetic interpretation will always be different depending on the market. The U.S. is only one market, and such designs like the current 4Runner may be embraced by other markets.


For example, the Vellfire is one of the most loved cars in Japan, but such design language may not translate that well in the U.S.





One disagreeable voice is insignificant to Toyota. If the masses are vocal, then the issue would be different.
Personally, I like the design of the vellfire.
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^^^

Ergo, any design will never be universally accepted.

Even the wheel is constantly attempted to be reinvented...

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Originally Posted by 1sWt2GS
Doesn't even look that bad to me, can you explain further whats so ugly about the car? I personally think it looks well suited.

Heres the pic u posted, I simply put img tags on it so everyone else could see.

Agreed, looks amazing, bold, dynamic, youthful, strong, cutting edge.
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Old 01-26-15, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusNN
Agreed, looks amazing, bold, dynamic, youthful, strong, cutting edge.
Yea, that was the Pontiac Aztec's excuse.
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
Yea, that was the Pontiac Aztec's excuse.
60% rise of sales last month compared to last year, old model.

People like it, deal with it... design is subjective.
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The picture that 1swtgs posted looks good. I think because the bottom lip, that is normally silver, is blacked out. That was the only thing that bothered me about the looks of the new 4runner.
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So are we debating exterior design or the safety of the 4Runner here as per OP post
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Old 01-27-15, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
This hideous looking creature needs to go back to the pits of HELL from which it came.
You use quite harsh language, Pamperme. I agree the grille and headlights (to my tastes) are awkward-looking....but the rest of the vehicle is pretty sensibly designed and, IMO, doesn't look bad. And that squarish body-design is good for interior space efficiency.



The safety-ratings for this vehicles are actually not bad, except for the offset-impact test, which, according to this source/link, was marginal. But, I agree...that picture says a thousand words....more than an official rating.

A lot of that severe body damage (but not necessarily all) may be due to the noticeably thin sheet metal that many newer Toyotas use. But keep in mind that severe body damage in an accident doesn't necessarily mean severe frame damage, even in unibody vehicles, if the unibody is engineered well and uses good metal-alloys.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...Runner/Safety/

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Cars like these sell very well in South East Asian nations, just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean people won't love it and buy it.

I can say based on my vacation to Thailand, that in some parts of Thailand, Toyota holds a near monopoly on transport vans similar but older than the Vellfire.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
You use quite harsh language, Pamperme. I agree the grille and headlights (to my tastes) are awkward-looking....but the rest of the vehicle is pretty sensibly designed and, IMO, doesn't look bad. And that squarish body-design is good for interior space efficiency.

2014-2016 Toyota 4Runner IIHS Narrow-Overlap Crash Test - YouTube


The safety-ratings for this vehicles are actually not bad, except for the offset-impact test, which, according to this source/link, was marginal. But, I agree...that picture says a thousand words....more than an official rating.

A lot of that severe body damage (but not necessarily all) may be due to the noticeably thin sheet metal that many newer Toyotas use. But keep in mind that severe body damage in an accident doesn't necessarily mean severe frame damage, even in unibody vehicles, if the unibody is engineered well and uses good metal-alloys.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...Runner/Safety/
The front grill area was my gripe. Ur right, the rest of the vehicle is decent. It's the face I don't like.
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
The front grill area was my gripe. Ur right, the rest of the vehicle is decent. It's the face I don't like.
don't worry, for most , everyone on the road will see the face for less than 2 seconds. It is the rear end that you will see for longer periods, and that needs to please. Does it?
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Ugly truck with a cheap interior.
Postage stamp size infotainment screen.
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Interior on the upgraded versions are nice.

Not Lexus nice, but upscale.


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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Interior on the upgraded versions are nice.

Not Lexus nice, but upscale.


Very nice.
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Old 01-29-15, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Interior on the upgraded versions are nice.

Not Lexus nice, but upscale.


To me,hard plastics all over and a lot of that cheap looking silver painted plastic.
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