blacksc400

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LS, the two cars has no comparison.

lex

the ES has a more modern interior though

corradoMR2

LS all the way. The bank-vault door slam sound alone is worth 35K!

In fact this thread is giving me the bug to get a used one too

evident

LS460 hands down. LS is the Lexus flagship, while the ES is a warmed over camry/avalon ( No offense to ES owners here!). in other words, the LS is much more special and better built!

grabber2

LS for sure.....more space, more comfort.......I'm disappointed with the current ES. It wasn't really luxury

hypervish

I vote LS as well.

corradoMR2

At this time, it's an onslaught by the LS, 19 to 2. But not surprised.

SW17LS

I voted ES, just because I'm not a used car guy. The LS is a much better car no doubt, but still I'd go for the new ES...and did...twice when I was faced with the same choice.

EthanV

If you not concern about gas mileage. I will take LS in a heart beat!!! That V8 is the beast !

SW17LS

Actually the LS gets gas mileage pretty similar to the ES...

pman6

that's something people should be able to live without...... by properly adjusting side mirrors and going back to basic driving skills.

Either sedan should not have a blind spot problem.

Crank that neck yo.


Also, that feeling of being the first owner to get to 35k miles wears off quickly. It's nothing special.
If the car was never in an accident, and the interior is mint, get it.

I used to be picky about not getting used cars, mostly because I thought it was easy to be defrauded by concealed/omitted accident records

SW17LS

I think the BSM is a great technology. Sure you can live without it, but its one of those things that increases your safety and makes driving easier.

LexBob2

If the OP is concerned about gas mileage, the '11 LS460 is rated at 16/24/19 on premium and the '14 ES350 is 21/31/24 on regular.

TangoRed

I'll go against the grain and vote ES350. I couldn't live without the modern features.

Aron9000

If you can afford a $35,000 car, should you be worried about fuel economy???? Now I can understand that there is a huge difference between 10mpg and 19mpg, but between 19 and 24, not really that much of a gulf IMO. Besides, those big v8's usually get better fuel economy than expected, provided you have a light right foot.

I'm still kind of surprised about those fuel economy numbers on the 2011 LS. I had a 1991 Cadillac Brougham, it did 25mpg at 75-78mph on a flat highway with the a/c off. That was with that barn aerodynamics and the optional "big" 350 Chevy engine. That car usually did 16-19mpg in normal driving though. My bigger 1995 Fleetwood was the same story, 25-26 mpg if you kept it at 74-77mph. Normal driving was 17-18mpg.

Kind of funny how the much newer Lexus returns about the same mpg numbers, yet it requires premium fuel. Then again it has about 100 more horsepower than that 1995 Cadillac, and 200 more than that 1991.