Lexus debuts 2016 GS F
01-14-15, 06:38 PM
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01-15-15, 05:35 AM
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01-15-15, 05:36 AM
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but all the rest looks really great. 
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01-15-15, 07:01 AM
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Agree.
There is a big fuss over CTS-V but i'm a skeptic. I don't expect them to put all that power down properly. Z06 is a sports car and as that it is acceptable to be on a wild side but luxury foor door is a completely different game. What I expect them to do is either neuter it and make it a straight line rocket or make it very tail sliding happy which in my opinion is the worst thing to expect from your four door car. I never appreciated skidding four doors cause that is just nonsense, hence I never liked AMG sedans ever. BMW M3 was surgically precise up until last gen and M5 was never good at anything except that beautiful V10 sound in previous gen. I never understood people's obsession with oversteer in anything bigger than S2000 or RX8, even if you can control it to a degree and especially not in pig cars like M5, E55 and yes even Viper. That's not joy that's pure stupidity or compromise because the car lacks proper thrilling attributes. Driving Evos spoiled me a lot and benchmark is set really high when it comes to four doors
If RC-F is any indication then GS-F should be a composed sedan that will not get you in trouble by acting stupid just because you asked for some thrill but rather provide you with the thrill in a balanced manner like proper sporty-luxury sedan should.
There is a big fuss over CTS-V but i'm a skeptic. I don't expect them to put all that power down properly. Z06 is a sports car and as that it is acceptable to be on a wild side but luxury foor door is a completely different game. What I expect them to do is either neuter it and make it a straight line rocket or make it very tail sliding happy which in my opinion is the worst thing to expect from your four door car. I never appreciated skidding four doors cause that is just nonsense, hence I never liked AMG sedans ever. BMW M3 was surgically precise up until last gen and M5 was never good at anything except that beautiful V10 sound in previous gen. I never understood people's obsession with oversteer in anything bigger than S2000 or RX8, even if you can control it to a degree and especially not in pig cars like M5, E55 and yes even Viper. That's not joy that's pure stupidity or compromise because the car lacks proper thrilling attributes. Driving Evos spoiled me a lot and benchmark is set really high when it comes to four doors
If RC-F is any indication then GS-F should be a composed sedan that will not get you in trouble by acting stupid just because you asked for some thrill but rather provide you with the thrill in a balanced manner like proper sporty-luxury sedan should.
01-15-15, 07:14 AM
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If you are skeptical simply look at the last CTS-V. With a platform dating back to early 2002 and 556 hp Cadillac were able to make that big girl dance. The new CTS-V is much lighter, has a much more advanced chassis and like the CTS V-Sport is light weight for the class and is very balanced. it also uses the next gen Magnetic suspension along with the Z06s electronic Limited Slip Differential and Performance traction management. There should be no such issue with balance.
01-15-15, 07:22 AM
#448
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On some level, I think Lexus is being handcuffed by the LFA. Imagine telling the 500 or so owners of their 2yr old $400k supercar has less HP than the guy with the $80k car? Yes yes it's an out of production car designed 10yrs ago and its in a different class, but a flagship is a flagship and a halo car is a halo car. For Lexus to leapfrog that car in HP is in some ways embarrassing. I see Lexus letting lose with their next iteration of the F cars, reaching at or above the 550HP level, perhaps in 3 years. That should be sufficient time since the LFA production ended.
01-15-15, 07:27 AM
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I highly doubt Lexus is making directions for mainstream cars based on what 500 LFA owners who they receive no financial benefit from think.
01-15-15, 08:51 AM
#450
On some level, I think Lexus is being handcuffed by the LFA. Imagine telling the 500 or so owners of their 2yr old $400k supercar has less HP than the guy with the $80k car? Yes yes it's an out of production car designed 10yrs ago and its in a different class, but a flagship is a flagship and a halo car is a halo car. For Lexus to leapfrog that car in HP is in some ways embarrassing. I see Lexus letting lose with their next iteration of the F cars, reaching at or above the 550HP level, perhaps in 3 years. That should be sufficient time since the LFA production ended.