Lexus debuts 2016 GS F
01-06-15, 09:40 AM
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Take the superb handling 4GS and add over 160hp & over 110 lb/ft torque and the suspension to match it ; seriously what is not to like? 
01-06-15, 09:53 AM
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We'd all be happy for Lexus if they'd just call it what it is, a GS500 F-Sport, instead of devaluing the F brand.
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01-06-15, 10:11 AM
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Sometimes I wonder what Lexus is thinking.... After seeing the competition, this is what they roll out? Sure, it's a nice car--but not worthy of the F brand. If it is, then Lexus has taken a step backwards. Heads should roll.
01-06-15, 10:15 AM
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The problem is that Lexus is insulting its own F brand by making the GS-F no more quicker than the competition's regular V8 models, i.e. the 550i, the E550 and the S6.
We'd all be happy for Lexus if they'd just call it what it is, a GS500 F-Sport, instead of devaluing the F brand.
We'd all be happy for Lexus if they'd just call it what it is, a GS500 F-Sport, instead of devaluing the F brand.
As a GS owner, I'm happy that lexus built the GS F, but NOT proud of the weak number over the competition.
But DAMN, that interior
I'm no engineer, but why can't they squeeze out a couple more hp to round it up to 500 since it is higher up in the food chain over the RC F???
01-06-15, 10:19 AM
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i also wondering how they are going to price it?
E550 Coupe
402 horsepower
$59,400 MSRP
CTS V Sport
420 horsepower
59,995 MSRP
550i
445 horsepower
$64,900 MSRP
S6
420 horsepower
$75,500 MSRP
E550 Coupe
402 horsepower
$59,400 MSRP
CTS V Sport
420 horsepower
59,995 MSRP
550i
445 horsepower
$64,900 MSRP
S6
420 horsepower
$75,500 MSRP
01-06-15, 10:20 AM
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All-New 2016 Lexus GS F has a 467HP 5.0-liter V8
This is what Lexus has come up with to compete with the BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, Jaguar XFR-S and Cadillac's new CTS-V: the new GS F.
However, Lexus' decision to give the high-performance version of the GS saloon the same naturally-aspirated 5.0-liter V8 as the RC F makes you wonder if they actually mean business, as the Japanese model is seriously underpowered compared to its chief rivals.
At least it is on paper where the eight-cylinder unit is rated at 467hp (473PS) at 7,100 rpm and peak torque of 389 lb.-ft. (527Nm) at 4,800-5,600rpm. That's a far cry from the BMW M5's 552hp (560PS), the Mercedes E63's 550hp (557PS), let alone the Cadillac CTS-V's almighty supercharged V8 with 640hp and 630 lb-ft (855 Nm).
Acceleration figures have yet to be announced.
The GS F's V8 is hooked up to an eight-speed automatic gearbox with manual-shifting capabilities driving the rear wheels through the same Torque Vectoring Differential (TVD) found in the RC F,with three operating modes named Standard, Slalom and Track.
Lexus says the GS F also benefits from structural reinforcements and suspension upgrades "designed to optimize this super sedan’s handling envelope without detracting from its ride quality".
At 1,830kg or 4,034 lb, the GS F is 115kg (253 pounds) lighter than the M5 and 195kg (430 pounds) lighter than the E63 AMG 4MATIC.
It's a pity that the GS F doesn't have the oomph under its hood because Lexus did a nice job with the exterior – better than Cadillac, if you ask me, even though some may find the huge chrome grille at the front on the excessive side.
It has a mildly aggressive kit with reworked bumpers on both ends, a rear diffuser with quad exhausts, flared wheel arches, side skirts, a carbon fiber boot lid spoiler, plus 19-inch rims shod in 255/35 front and 275/35 rear tires.
The interior is dressed in two-tone leather and Alcantara surfaces with body-hugging front sport seats, carbon trims, a sports steering wheel and added kit.
We'll learn more about the new GS F at the Detroit Motor Show next week.
However, Lexus' decision to give the high-performance version of the GS saloon the same naturally-aspirated 5.0-liter V8 as the RC F makes you wonder if they actually mean business, as the Japanese model is seriously underpowered compared to its chief rivals.
At least it is on paper where the eight-cylinder unit is rated at 467hp (473PS) at 7,100 rpm and peak torque of 389 lb.-ft. (527Nm) at 4,800-5,600rpm. That's a far cry from the BMW M5's 552hp (560PS), the Mercedes E63's 550hp (557PS), let alone the Cadillac CTS-V's almighty supercharged V8 with 640hp and 630 lb-ft (855 Nm).
Acceleration figures have yet to be announced.
The GS F's V8 is hooked up to an eight-speed automatic gearbox with manual-shifting capabilities driving the rear wheels through the same Torque Vectoring Differential (TVD) found in the RC F,with three operating modes named Standard, Slalom and Track.
Lexus says the GS F also benefits from structural reinforcements and suspension upgrades "designed to optimize this super sedan’s handling envelope without detracting from its ride quality".
At 1,830kg or 4,034 lb, the GS F is 115kg (253 pounds) lighter than the M5 and 195kg (430 pounds) lighter than the E63 AMG 4MATIC.
It's a pity that the GS F doesn't have the oomph under its hood because Lexus did a nice job with the exterior – better than Cadillac, if you ask me, even though some may find the huge chrome grille at the front on the excessive side.
It has a mildly aggressive kit with reworked bumpers on both ends, a rear diffuser with quad exhausts, flared wheel arches, side skirts, a carbon fiber boot lid spoiler, plus 19-inch rims shod in 255/35 front and 275/35 rear tires.
The interior is dressed in two-tone leather and Alcantara surfaces with body-hugging front sport seats, carbon trims, a sports steering wheel and added kit.
We'll learn more about the new GS F at the Detroit Motor Show next week.
01-06-15, 10:35 AM
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Looks good to me! I even like the 1970's Pontiac seats. I would have included dark-colored rims though.
01-06-15, 10:52 AM
#24
so many responses in this thread already so i won't reiterate some of them. for sure nice for lexus to expand the f line and have a v8 gs, but in my eyes this is more like a gs500 than gsf. yeah, won't elaborate more on that.
btw, so who said the gsf is going to be lighter than the rcf? lol
hahaha at least i am glad we can talk about foglights more freely now
to be fair, i think it depends on how those openings are being used. if it's for cooling purposes, i am ok with no foglights. but if it's just yet another cover AND that foglights are available in other regions around the world, yeah that's a problem
but looking at rcf, i think it's more on the functional path.
btw, so who said the gsf is going to be lighter than the rcf? lol
to be fair, i think it depends on how those openings are being used. if it's for cooling purposes, i am ok with no foglights. but if it's just yet another cover AND that foglights are available in other regions around the world, yeah that's a problem
but looking at rcf, i think it's more on the functional path.
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01-06-15, 11:05 AM
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This is kind of depressing but at least the GS has a V8 again. For nomenclature and marketing it seems like the F has become the S of the Audi.
Was hoping for something more special than this.
Was hoping for something more special than this.