RX - 4th Gen (2016-2022) Discussion topics related to the 2016 and up RX350 and RX450h models

2016 Lexus RX revealed (pics page 35)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-31-14, 02:00 PM
  #46  
1111GS
Moderator
 
1111GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: US
Posts: 2,876
Received 90 Likes on 78 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
Not that we have any interest in the NX-ish design, but that definitely will make the current model look outdated for sure.
I always find it amazing how they keep all these info sealed until release date. We're only weeks away from the car show but there's no real picture about this car or GS family.
1111GS is offline  
Old 12-31-14, 03:30 PM
  #47  
Carmaker1
Instructor
 
Carmaker1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MI
Posts: 1,089
Received 130 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Trexus
The RX is the all time highest selling Lexus vehicle. Since inception (1990) the ES has sold 1,307,484 units. The RX since inception (1999) has sold 1,499,062 units. Now that the NX has arrived we will have to wait and see how it will affect the RX. Last month (November 2014) Lexus sold 22 NX's, 93,865 RX's.

When the IS arrived sales of the ES actually increased. So sales of the RX could either increase, decrease or stay the same now that the NX is here...only time will tell.
The ES went on sale in September 1989 and the RX in March 1998.

Originally Posted by Sup
latest MAG X has renderings of the new RX, they say it will have an innovative window shape for coupe like styling.

http://www.mag-x.com/shop/products/d...?product_id=65
Thanks, always can count on MAG X to deliver. Better than the unusually lazy, yet talented guesswork from Theophilus Chin. Both this image and the recent one are the best evidence of the 4RX.








Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
That is based on the unrelated Harrier and I am ashamed of WCF's Adrian Padeanu for being ignorant enough to post that. It has been beaten to death enough times, that the Harrier is no longer an RX re-badge and non-CL users continue to lazily make that incorrect connection.

While not beautiful, MAG X's render is much likelier. WCF tends to be very pro-German, yet a little bit more balanced than many other sites. They at times are intentionally obtuse/ignorant towards Toyota/Lexus and many other Asian automakers.

Originally Posted by Trexus
1RX (1999-2003) = 422,957
2RX (2004-2009) = 604,54
3RX (2010-Present) = 471,551

It appears the 2RX was the most popular. We will wait until the 4RX arrives and see what happens. This is U.S. sales not worldwide.
The 1RX was sold from March 1998, through mostly early 2003. The 2RX (XU30) was sold from spring 2003, so it did not run from 2004 to 2009. That time period (2004-2008), was spent developing the 3RX (AL10/GYL10). That went into production in November 2008 and was launched in the US in February 2009. When discussing numbers like that, it is probably very important to have a specific and exact time period.
Carmaker1 is offline  
Old 12-31-14, 06:09 PM
  #48  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,585
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WGW
Wow, that looks like a C-pillar fake window in that rendering, just like the 2015 Camry.

I hope to God the 4RX does not have a fake C-pillar window.

Yes it's been done a Lexus before, the 2GS, however that was done in a very clever and minimal way that did not look like a fake window piece whatsoever.

That would be an incredibly innovative C-pillar if that render is true, but I hope there's actual glass or transparent material and not a fake panel. If Nissan was able to use mostly real glass in their innovative C-pillar in the 2015 Murano, then Lexus should be able to do the same, again if that render is true.
Thick C and/or D-pillars, with or without fake windows, are becoming the norm on most SUVs (and even some regular sedans), mostly because of Federal roof-crush/rollover standards. So, don't be surprised if the new RX has them.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 12-31-14, 08:26 PM
  #49  
Sulu
Lexus Champion
 
Sulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 0
Received 30 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WGW
Oh I'm aware of that, I would just prefer no fake windows.
Unfortunately, I think that is a fake window. It looks too small to be a real window.

If you look closely at the (real) fixed windows in C- or D-pillars, you will notice that the glass area is (much) larger than the actual opening inside. From this magazine rendering, that fixed window behind the rear door seems much too small to be able to offer any real opening inside; even if that fixed window is real glass, the benefit you would get from a real window would be very small.
Sulu is offline  
Old 12-31-14, 10:11 PM
  #50  
Trexus
Moderator
 
Trexus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: California
Posts: 4,317
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cmk1
The ES went on sale in September 1989 and the RX in March 1998.


The 1RX was sold from March 1998, through mostly early 2003. The 2RX (XU30) was sold from spring 2003, so it did not run from 2004 to 2009. That time period (2004-2008), was spent developing the 3RX (AL10/GYL10). That went into production in November 2008 and was launched in the US in February 2009. When discussing numbers like that, it is probably very important to have a specific and exact time period.
I'm talking about model years. There is no such thing as a 1998 RX or 1989 ES....search all you want there was and never will be a 1998 RX or 1989 ES...
Trexus is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 12:01 AM
  #51  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,844
Received 111 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cmk1

That is based on the unrelated Harrier and I am ashamed of WCF's Adrian Padeanu for being ignorant enough to post that. It has been beaten to death enough times, that the Harrier is no longer an RX re-badge and non-CL users continue to lazily make that incorrect connection.
so lazy, isnt it?
spwolf is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 12:05 AM
  #52  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,844
Received 111 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sulu
Unfortunately, I think that is a fake window. It looks too small to be a real window.

If you look closely at the (real) fixed windows in C- or D-pillars, you will notice that the glass area is (much) larger than the actual opening inside. From this magazine rendering, that fixed window behind the rear door seems much too small to be able to offer any real opening inside; even if that fixed window is real glass, the benefit you would get from a real window would be very small.
it is easily seen where the window ends, about the half way, similar to other vehicles... They (and other manufacturers) have been using this floating roof concept on some special vehicles in Europe, and I quite like the effect.
spwolf is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 10:36 AM
  #53  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,487
Received 62 Likes on 53 Posts
Default

I highly doubt we are going to see a 3 row RX. It does not make sense for Lexus to oversize the RX.

More than likely we will see a 3 row GX crossover than has a smaller price tag and engine size that the current GX.

The RX competes with the ML and X5, it does NOT compete with the stuff from GM or Lincoln.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 11:08 AM
  #54  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,585
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill

The RX competes with the ML and X5, it does NOT compete with the stuff from GM or Lincoln.
I'll agree....with one exception. The RX is quite similar in many ways to the Lincoln MKX, though significantly better-built and engineered.

mmarshall is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 11:25 AM
  #55  
Mr. Burns
Lexus Champion
 
Mr. Burns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canuckistan
Posts: 1,874
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cmk1


Thanks, always can count on MAG X to deliver. Better than the unusually lazy, yet talented guesswork from Theophilus Chin. Both this image and the recent one are the best evidence of the 4RX.




What are they basing these renders on? They seem to conflict with a lot of Lexus' newer design cues (i.e. separated DRL). Are the two top left (front end and side/C-pillar) images also renders or leaked images?

Last edited by Mr. Burns; 01-01-15 at 12:12 PM.
Mr. Burns is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 11:43 AM
  #56  
gymratter
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
gymratter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: TX
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I highly doubt we are going to see a 3 row RX. It does not make sense for Lexus to oversize the RX.

More than likely we will see a 3 row GX crossover than has a smaller price tag and engine size that the current GX.

The RX competes with the ML and X5, it does NOT compete with the stuff from GM or Lincoln.
does the GX already have a 3rd row?

gymratter is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 12:39 PM
  #57  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,889
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cmk1
While not beautiful, MAG X's render is much likelier. WCF tends to be very pro-German, yet a little bit more balanced than many other sites. They at times are intentionally obtuse/ignorant towards Toyota/Lexus and many other Asian automakers.
The MAG X render seems to be confusing the RX with recent Nissan's. I don't think they'd do the same rear "floating roof" D-Pillar effect as the new Murano and upcoming Maxima


pbm317 is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 12:40 PM
  #58  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,889
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gymratter
does the GX already have a 3rd row?

GX has a 3rd row, but isn't a "crossover"
pbm317 is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 01:20 PM
  #59  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,585
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pbm317
GX has a 3rd row, but isn't a "crossover"
Correct. It's more a truck-based design than a true crossover. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if the next GX becomes more car-based, since, with the exception of the Nissan Pathfinder (which went from body-on-frame to crossover to back to body-on-frame), that seems to be the general trend. And you can bet the rent money that the next RX, even if enlarged and given a 3rd-row seat, will remain a crossover.

Last edited by mmarshall; 01-01-15 at 01:24 PM.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 01-01-15, 01:34 PM
  #60  
gymratter
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
gymratter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: TX
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

right, but i just can't see Toyota turning the GX into a CUV. after all, isn't it heavy base on the 4Runner or Land Cruiser Prado?
gymratter is offline  


Quick Reply: 2016 Lexus RX revealed (pics page 35)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:53 AM.