Couple close to death after night in car
12-15-14, 06:11 PM
#16
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For older persons who don't want to screw around with this kind of electronics (or who would have trouble with it) , autos should be designed so that they can have the electronic entry/exit/locking systems deactivated before the car is delivered, and the doors operated by a simple fold-out key on the fob. GM, even with electronic-locking, uses a VW-style fold-out key on a number of their designs.....with a conventional mechanical lock built into the drivers' door. Unfortunately, the auto industry, as a whole, seems to ignore the over-65 crowd more and more each year.
the key fob and electronics are irrelevant aren't they? there's always a mechanical way or door button to simply unlock a door or all the doors. what am i missing? (that's what they said 
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12-15-14, 06:24 PM
#18
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looks like door look is just on the door handle like usual.
12-15-14, 07:31 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
However, bit, I haven't reviewed the latest-generation Mazda3 (the car the couple was trapped in), and, in all fairness, since I'm not familiar with exactly how the electronic door-fob system works in that car, I won't comment any further on it.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-15-14 at 08:06 PM.
12-15-14, 07:54 PM
#21
Lexus Test Driver
I would imagine without the fob nearby, the locks would lock automatically the instant you tried to unlock them manually. My parents LS400 would do this, as discovered by my little sister. You have to be very quick to open it from what I understand. A car that is twenty years newer would probably include some iteration of this feature.
They still are morons though
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They still are morons though
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12-15-14, 08:08 PM
#22
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The LS400 had a smart key? If this Mazda has a system where if you try to unlock manually the door is instantly locked, well that's a death trap. What if something goes wrong with the electronics, either the smart key or the lock ECU.
12-15-14, 09:40 PM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
There are no kiddie switches on the front doors. These people are just an astonishing level of moron.
Just because a few people (VERY few people) are just too stupid to unlock a door doesn't mean the rest of us should have to deal with the dumbing down of the technology in our vehicles.
Just because a few people (VERY few people) are just too stupid to unlock a door doesn't mean the rest of us should have to deal with the dumbing down of the technology in our vehicles.
12-16-14, 03:15 AM
#25
I can't believe how critical some posters have been in this thread. Apparently you have not been around senior citizens. I hope none of you grow too old to save you the embarrassment.
12-16-14, 04:53 AM
#26
Lexus Test Driver
For older persons who don't want to screw around with this kind of electronics (or who would have trouble with it) , autos should be designed so that they can have the electronic entry/exit/locking systems deactivated before the car is delivered, and the doors operated by a simple fold-out key on the fob. GM, even with electronic-locking, uses a VW-style fold-out key on a number of their designs.....with a conventional mechanical lock built into the drivers' door. Unfortunately, the auto industry, as a whole, seems to ignore the over-65 crowd more and more each year.
12-16-14, 04:57 AM
#27
Lexus Test Driver
In most cases, yes, but on some cars, the hidden "Kiddie-Switches" disable the inside rear door latches so kids can't open them at all from the inside (even with the door-button up)...only someone outside can let them out. Of course, in the case of this couple, we have to assume they both were in the front seat. My original point, though, was that the simpler the locking system is, the less Grandpa and Grandma (or anyone else) are likely to lock themselves either in or out.
However, bit, I haven't reviewed the latest-generation Mazda3 (the car the couple was trapped in), and, in all fairness, since I'm not familiar with exactly how the electronic door-fob system works in that car, I won't comment any further on it.
However, bit, I haven't reviewed the latest-generation Mazda3 (the car the couple was trapped in), and, in all fairness, since I'm not familiar with exactly how the electronic door-fob system works in that car, I won't comment any further on it.
12-16-14, 04:58 AM
#28
Lexus Test Driver
I'm thinking he meant that when you hit unlock, you had about 30 seconds to open a door, otherwise it re-locked. But again, these people were INSIDE the car.
12-16-14, 06:00 AM
#29
they probably used keyfob to unlock doors from the inside previously? lol.
