2016 Toyota Tacoma news
#77
That 4.6L was a placeholder V8 from the beginning and was making the same power as many 3.5 - 3.7L V6s even as it was introduced. It was only ever used as the entry level V8 for the Tundra (and then quickly phased out due to low demand), and the GX 460. It's smooth and torquey, yes, but short on power and MPG.
The 4.0L V6 in the 4Runner is thirsty itself.
Tacoma is getting a new engine and transmission all together - it has been confirmed.
The 4.0L V6 in the 4Runner is thirsty itself.
Tacoma is getting a new engine and transmission all together - it has been confirmed.
#79
#80
Pole Position
That 4.6L was a placeholder V8 from the beginning and was making the same power as many 3.5 - 3.7L V6s even as it was introduced. It was only ever used as the entry level V8 for the Tundra (and then quickly phased out due to low demand), and the GX 460. It's smooth and torquey, yes, but short on power and MPG.
The 4.0L V6 in the 4Runner is thirsty itself.
Tacoma is getting a new engine and transmission all together - it has been confirmed.
The 4.0L V6 in the 4Runner is thirsty itself.
Tacoma is getting a new engine and transmission all together - it has been confirmed.
#81
I doubt that the Tacoma will have an ALL NEW engine and transmission. It will be a rework of either the 4.0L V6 or the 3.5L V6 with a 6-speed tranny.
With 270-280 hp and 270+ ft lb of torque and 20/28/24 mpg and I'll buy another new one.
With 270-280 hp and 270+ ft lb of torque and 20/28/24 mpg and I'll buy another new one.
#82
The pursuit of F
#83
Lexus Fanatic
The most telling thing that this is just a rework of the existing Tacoma is obviously the middle section, but the fact that the truck is not lowered, trucks are now being built lower to ground to improve aerodynamics but this Tacoma is no different from the last.
I also don't think we will see a new frame, the cost of adding a fully boxed frame is not cheap and the current model already has very impressive towing and payload specs.
I am wondering if anyone can zoom in to the rear of the wheels, this would the most telling thing if the truck has been redesigned underneath...does the new truck have drums brakes in the rear or new upgraded discs?
#84
I agree, I doubt the Tacoma will have an all new engine as well. Maybe the I4 but not likely the V6 4.0. It should get the update that the Tundra/4Runner V6 got.
The most telling thing that this is just a rework of the existing Tacoma is obviously the middle section, but the fact that the truck is not lowered, trucks are now being built lower to ground to improve aerodynamics but this Tacoma is no different from the last.
I also don't think we will see a new frame, the cost of adding a fully boxed frame is not cheap and the current model already has very impressive towing and payload specs.
I am wondering if anyone can zoom in to the rear of the wheels, this would the most telling thing if the truck has been redesigned underneath...does the new truck have drums brakes in the rear or new upgraded discs?
The most telling thing that this is just a rework of the existing Tacoma is obviously the middle section, but the fact that the truck is not lowered, trucks are now being built lower to ground to improve aerodynamics but this Tacoma is no different from the last.
I also don't think we will see a new frame, the cost of adding a fully boxed frame is not cheap and the current model already has very impressive towing and payload specs.
I am wondering if anyone can zoom in to the rear of the wheels, this would the most telling thing if the truck has been redesigned underneath...does the new truck have drums brakes in the rear or new upgraded discs?
I like the LOOK of the Current truck and the NEW one is very similar...which is great. If I'm the lead engineer I will do this and it will be the BEST selling in its class again
-Revised 4.0L V6 with Dual VVT-I and DI pumping out 290-300 HP. The current 4.0L in the 4Runner is already at 270 HP, adding DI to make 10% MORE HP is easy. The Torque can stay at the current 4Runner's numbers.
-6-Speed auto
-20/28/24 MPG city/hw/combined
-Power seats (at least on the Driver's seat)
-Outside mirror and rear window defroster with auto dimming
-Upgrade interior for the top model (limited)...
-Keep it at the current price point.
Done!
#85
Lexus Fanatic
Rear brakes are DRUMS but that is OK. The CURRENT truck is VERY good.
I like the LOOK of the Current truck and the NEW one is very similar...which is great. If I'm the lead engineer I will do this and it will be the BEST selling in its class again
-Revised 4.0L V6 with Dual VVT-I and DI pumping out 290-300 HP. The current 4.0L in the 4Runner is already at 270 HP, adding DI to make 10% MORE HP is easy. The Torque can stay at the current 4Runner's numbers.
-6-Speed auto
-20/28/24 MPG city/hw/combined
-Power seats (at least on the Driver's seat)
-Outside mirror and rear window defroster with auto dimming
-Upgrade interior for the top model (limited)...
-Keep it at the current price point.
Done!
I like the LOOK of the Current truck and the NEW one is very similar...which is great. If I'm the lead engineer I will do this and it will be the BEST selling in its class again
-Revised 4.0L V6 with Dual VVT-I and DI pumping out 290-300 HP. The current 4.0L in the 4Runner is already at 270 HP, adding DI to make 10% MORE HP is easy. The Torque can stay at the current 4Runner's numbers.
-6-Speed auto
-20/28/24 MPG city/hw/combined
-Power seats (at least on the Driver's seat)
-Outside mirror and rear window defroster with auto dimming
-Upgrade interior for the top model (limited)...
-Keep it at the current price point.
Done!
#86
Lexus Fanatic
I zoomed in as far as possible......no sign of a caliper assembly, which you would have with discs. They are almost certainly drums, at least in this specific picture.
Toyota probably didn't see a need to upgrade to discs. First on most pickups, especially smaller and mid-sized ones, the rear end is lightly loaded much of the time, and not putting much stress on the rear brakes. Second, that light load is made even less by the fact that braking forces produce a forward-weight-transfer in the vehicle that puts even less of the work on the rear brakes. Third, Tacoma drum brakes have a reputation for being very durable, so, perhaps, the sentiment at Toyota is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. However, Motor Trend's Truck World says the 2016 Tundra will have discs in back, so we may have to wait and see the model actually displayed at the Detroit Show.
Toyota probably didn't see a need to upgrade to discs. First on most pickups, especially smaller and mid-sized ones, the rear end is lightly loaded much of the time, and not putting much stress on the rear brakes. Second, that light load is made even less by the fact that braking forces produce a forward-weight-transfer in the vehicle that puts even less of the work on the rear brakes. Third, Tacoma drum brakes have a reputation for being very durable, so, perhaps, the sentiment at Toyota is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. However, Motor Trend's Truck World says the 2016 Tundra will have discs in back, so we may have to wait and see the model actually displayed at the Detroit Show.
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#89
My current drive is a 2014 RAM 1500 Laramie. It's pretty loaded but lacks HIDs and even a manual telescoping wheel (WTF) but it does have power pedals. It has the Hemi with 8 speed which is sweet, but I really don't need this much truck day to day. I was thinking about downsizing to this truck, but man, drum brakes, still no HIDs, ridiculous little exhaust pipe and an absurd 1980s mast antenna. I don't think it's in the cards.
#90
Lexus Fanatic
Depends on which downsizing. Don't forget, though.....Ford and Dodge both had to drop their smaller truck-lines in the U.S. (Ranger and Dakota) because their sales couldn't keep up with the full-size ones. The Suzuki Equator, a rebadged Nissan Frontier, never even got to first base (I only saw one on the street before Suzuki pulled out of the U.S.). GM, of course, went ahead with the redesigned 2Gen Colorado/Canyon (and they appear to be FAR better products than the VERY unimpressive 1Gen was). Only time will tell if the new 2 Gens sell. The Tacoma, of course, has always done well here.
Last edited by mmarshall; 01-11-15 at 11:21 AM.