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Ward's 10 Best Engines of 2015 Announced by Penton's WardsAuto
Honorees span most diverse and technically advanced engines in 21 years of recognized powertrain excellence

SOUTHFIELD, Mich., Dec. 10, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- Penton's Wards 10 Best Engines of 2015 have been announced. A 707-hp fire-breathing V-8 and a hydrogen-powered fuel cell emitting nothing but water vapor were among all-new or improved powertrains evaluated by the editors of WardsAuto to produce its annual Ward's 10 Best Engines list.

To be eligible for the Ward's 10 Best Engines competition, an engine or propulsion system must be all-new or significantly re-engineered and available in the U.S. market with a base price not exceeding $60,000. This year's pool of 37 nominees includes last year's 10 winners and 27 new entries. Eight WardsAuto editors drove the vehicles in October and November in their routine daily commutes around metro Detroit. Editors scored each engine based on power, torque, technology, observed fuel economy, relative competitiveness and noise, vibration and harshness characteristics.

The 2015 Ward's 10 Best Engines are:

127-kW Electric Motor (BMW i3 electric vehicle)
6.2L OHV V-8 (Chevrolet Corvette Stingray)
6.2L Supercharged OHV V-8 (Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat)
1.0L Turbocharged DOHC 3-cyl. (Ford Fiesta)
100-kW Fuel Cell (Hyundai Tucson FCV)
1.5L Turbocharged DOHC 3-cyl. (Mini Cooper)
3.0L Turbodiesel DOHC V-6 (Ram 1500 EcoDiesel)
2.0L Turbocharged DOHC H-4 (Subaru WRX)
1.8L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Volkswagen Jetta)
2.0L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Volvo S60)

"We spend a lot of time reading the powertrain tea leaves throughout the auto industry, and we're proud that this year's list is a microcosm of all the latest innovation coming from automakers," says WardsAuto World Editor-in-Chief Drew Winter. "It's not just a list for enthusiasts or for environmentalists," he says. "There's something for every vehicle shopper and every budget. All the powertrains on this list deliver a first-rate driving experience."

The awards will be presented to top powertrain executives from the winning automakers at a January 14 ceremony in Detroit during the North American International Auto Show. In the coming weeks, WardsAuto.com and the January issue of WardsAuto World magazine will provide commentary, profiles of the winning engines, videos and more information about the 2015 Ward's 10 Best Engines.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/10/w...-2015-winners/
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only one Japanese entry, Honda and Toyota need to upgrade their engine fleet ASAP. all their mainstream motors have been around for almost a decade.
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FA20 DIT Really gem of an engine. I can see it going into STI soon.
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Originally Posted by stlgrym3
only one Japanese entry, Honda and Toyota need to upgrade their engine fleet ASAP. all their mainstream motors have been around for almost a decade.
haha it's not like those 3-cyl boxes are anything of interest

What about the updated 2UR-GSE in the RCF? It easily has way more tech and is far more sophisticated then any of the engines in that depressing list above

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Look at reviews of the Camry. Despite the flagship V6 (2GR-FE) being about 10yrs old now it still receives praise for its performance, refinement & efficiency.

Why change? Considering how a 2.0L turbo would not see any real world MPG gains, but will have less performance, much less refinement and reduced reliability. **cough**FUSION**cough**
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1.8L Turbocharged DOHC 4-cyl. (Volkswagen Jetta)
Strange that they listed VW/Audi's 1.8T here instead of the 2.0T, which has significantly better throttle-response than the 1.8, and is still silky-smooth.
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Originally Posted by yowps3
haha it's not like those 3-cyl boxes are anything of interest

What about the updated 2UR-GSE in the RCF? It easily has way more tech and is far more sophisticated then any of the engines in that depressing list above
probably too late release for 2015...
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Corvette's 6.2L V8 is the only N/A gasoline engine on the entire list. That's a sad day and sobering reality.
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Fuel cells, I3's, electric motors. Best Engines sure is changing
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Fuel cells, I3's, electric motors. Best Engines sure is changing

The main problem is that, here in the U.S., we don't have much of an infrastructure (yet) for alternative-fuel engines...except for some states in the Midwest where E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) is readily available. But 250 and 400-volt electric-charging stations are still in short supply, and you can't just pull into a corner gas-station with a fuel-cell car and expect to fill the tank with 50,000 PSI compressed hydrogen.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Strange that they listed VW/Audi's 1.8T here instead of the 2.0T, which has significantly better throttle-response than the 1.8, and is still silky-smooth.
The 1.8t is new for they year, the 2.0t has been around for some time.
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Originally Posted by doge
The 1.8t is new for they year, the 2.0t has been around for some time.
I recently reviewed a 1.8T in the new Audi A3....I felt that the 2.0T, in both gas and diesel versions, is a better power plant.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I recently reviewed a 1.8T in the new Audi A3....I felt that the 2.0T, in both gas and diesel versions, is a better power plant.
It sure is, but that's irrelevant. The list is for NEW engines not engines that were released a few years ago.
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Originally Posted by doge
It sure is, but that's irrelevant. The list is for NEW engines not engines that were released a few years ago.
Not the case for the Ward's 10Best. Many engines, such as Nissan's VQ and Lexus's 2GR-FSE, have won Ward's 10Best awards for many years.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The main problem is that, here in the U.S., we don't have much of an infrastructure (yet) for alternative-fuel engines...except for some states in the Midwest where E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) is readily available. But 250 and 400-volt electric-charging stations are still in short supply, and you can't just pull into a corner gas-station with a fuel-cell car and expect to fill the tank with 50,000 PSI compressed hydrogen.
My point was term 10 Best 'Engines' has changed. Engines are typically ICE, but the term is now being used on Fuel cells and Electric motors. They are engines in the sense that they run/propel the vehicle but the term is changing. It's no different than saying I need a Kleenex when really you mean Tissue. Or photocopy instead of Xerox for that matter. This is essentially trademark erosion. I sort of wish they'd release a second list that is strictly ICE (NA/FI) mills
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