Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Review: 2015 Subaru Outback

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-23-14, 10:28 PM
  #1  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default Review: 2015 Subaru Outback


Gallery:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-...photo-3040837/

Realistically, many enthusiasts give horrible, horrible car buying advice. They will recommend something bizarre, inappropriately high performance, compromised or utterly impractical for a given consumer's needs, and they'll almost never recommend something that makes sense. And then they'll come up with 3.7 million reasons why the leading vehicle someone is thinking about is a bad choice.

Or maybe that's just what I do.

Regardless, if you poke, prod, bother or just get us drunk enough, eventually you'll begin getting honest feedback. And more than likely, we'll tell you, in hushed tones, about the many virtues of very, very boring cars. We'll talk about why the Toyota Camry is actually a pretty decent purchase or we'll explain how spacious and feature laden the Nissan Versa is.

The reason for withholding recommendations of bland offerings like the aforementioned Toyota and Nissan is that there are not really a lot of vehicles that suit the often peculiar whims of the auto enthusiast while also ticking the boxes of the average consumer. Unless, of course, you're looking to drop about $30,000 on an all-wheel-drive crossover, because that's an easy one to answer – just buy a Subaru Outback.

As a high-riding, sedan-based crossover, it'll appeal to your mundane, practical-minded sensibilities, while as a nouveau wagon with a boxer engine and some personality, enthusiasts won't feel guilty about recommending it to you. I came to this conclusion following a long week with a 2015 Outback Premium 2.5i, the brand's mid-range, volume-level entry.


Prompted by the redesign of the Legacy sedan on which it's based, the 2015 Outback, while not a standout looker, is nevertheless a pretty clean piece of styling. The black plastic accents, added to give some indication of the Outback's above-average offroad ability, are tastefully executed, while its clean grille and attractive headlights and taillights keep the design from being too shouty. And even if it is too visually loud for your tastes, Subaru offers the muted but classy beige-on-beige theme you see above, too.

It's a similar story in the cabin, where Subaru has delivered a clean, eye-pleasing treatment with totally acceptable material quality. A solid-feeling strip of textured faux aluminum complements the soft-touch plastics on the upper dash, while the only really hard plastics are on the lower portion of the center stack. Considering that's kind of a high-use area, as it's home to the cupholders and change tray, it's acceptable.

Functionally, the cloth seats of this tester are quite comfortable both in terms of overall support and cushioning. The upholstery, meanwhile, is soft and grippy, and at least in my mind, it isn't really a downgrade from the leather trim of the upmarket Outback Limited. There is leather, here, on the thickly padded armrest, a small feature that does wonders on a long trip. Visibility is excellent throughout thanks to the higher seating position.


Part of the appeal of the Outback is that it offers near-fullsize space for a midsize price. With 108.1 cubic feet of passenger volume (104.5 if, like my tester, your Outback features the optional sunroof), the Subaru easily bests similarly priced vehicles like the Ford Escape, Chevrolet Equinox and Toyota RAV4 (98.1, 99.7 and 101.9 cubic feet, respectively). The result of that extra space is a roomy backseat, which tops both the Escape and RAV4 in terms of legroom and beats all three competitors in shoulder room. All in all, that second row is no penalty box. Of course, Subaru's smaller Forester more directly competes with the aforementioned crossovers in terms of size, but the bang-for-the-buck factor is strong here in the Outback – the Japanese automaker puts it in a class with more expensive vehicles like the Ford Edge, Nissan Murano and Hyundai Santa Fe Sport.

What about behind the back seat? Well, the Outback is pretty well set up in that regard, too, offering up 35.5 cubic feet of cargo space – more than the Equinox or Escape – with a max cargo volume of 73.3 cubic feet. It's easy to access that space, too, thanks a wide hatch opening that's power operated on mid and upper-level models like my Premium tester.

The marquee feature on my volume-level tester is Subaru's latest EyeSight system, which includes such upmarket features as adaptive cruise control as well as safety items like pre-collision braking, lane departure warning and blind-spot monitoring with cross-traffic alert.

While the top-of-the-line Outback can be had with a 3.6-liter flat-six, the vast majority of buyers select Subaru's 2.5-liter flat-four with 175 horsepower and 174 pound-feet of torque. Both of those figures reach their peak quite close to the boxer's 6,000-rpm redline, coming in at 5,800 and 4,000 rpm, respectively. Regardless of engine, a continuously variable transmission (CVT) feeds power to Subaru's stalwart symmetrical all-wheel-drive system.

Despite their rather lofty peaks, I didn't really find the Outback wanting for power in most circumstances. Off-the-line acceleration at traffic lights is perfectly adequate, while freeway passing maneuvers are easily handled with a smidge of planning and a slightly aggressive right foot.

In our first drive of the Outback, we estimated that the 2.5-liter engine will hit 60 mph in the nine-second range, which seems rather accurate based on my time with it. While that's not quick by any stretch, from behind the wheel, the Outback feels snappier than that measurement would indicate. Despite its lack of zest, the Outback 2.5 is a reasonably competent tow vehicle. The four-cylinder model is rated to yank 2,700 pounds, outhauling similarly priced, four-cylinder competitors from Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet and Jeep.


Subaru has been worshipping at the temple of CVT for quite some time, so it's no surprise that the Outback's Lineartronic unit can perform its duties without succumbing to most of the demerits associated with these types of belt-driven transmissions. The CVT is responsive to throttle inputs, but it won't keep the engine's revs up unnecessarily. In fact, drive it civilly and you'll have a hard time picking it out from a standard gearbox in the first place – the dreaded stretched rubberband drone that accompanies full-throttle moments is largely absent, and when it does rear its head, it's usually only briefly.

Part of what makes this CVT work, though, isn't just the engineering behind it – it's that it's paired up with a pretty civilized engine. The 2.5-liter may be a boxer, but Subaru has done well to tame this engine type's not-always-desirable inherent characteristics (those types of distinctive sounds and vibrations that might be attractive to enthusiasts but not necessarily to everyday CUV buyers). The flat four sounds smooth and refined from behind the wheel and, as with the CVT, an uninformed driver would find it tough to tell the difference between the noise, vibration and harshness of the Outback and one of its competitors.




While it'd be silly to think a vehicle like the Outback is a serious handler, for a spacious, high-riding, 3,600-pound crossover, there is plenty to recommend about the way it addresses curves. Body roll, while expected due to the high center of gravity, doesn't suddenly rear its head. Instead, it arrives progressively and is easy to anticipate, allowing the driver to adjust throttle, brake or steering inputs as needed. There's even some feedback through the MacPherson front/double-wishbone rear suspension, which isn't something particularly expected in this class. You can toss the Outback into a bend with a pretty decent idea of how the all-wheel-drive system and suspension will sort things out, making for just the sort of confident-inducing experience expected of a Subaru.

The ride, meanwhile, is stable at freeway speeds, ironing out expansion joints and other imperfections admirably. On surface roads, it isn't crashy or difficult to live with, reacting well to larger potholes and bumps without transmitting too clearly into the cabin. Impact noises are not an issue, due in large part to Subaru's decision to fit relatively small 17-inch wheels on 65-series Goodyear Dueler H/P Sport AS tires.

Hiding behind those thick-spoke 17s are 12.4-inch front discs with two-piston calipers and 11.8-inch rear discs clamped by single-piston calipers. Pedal feel is soft, and there's more travel than enthusiasts tend to prefer, but it's easy enough to modulate and adjust inputs as needed.

Subaru has fitted electric power-assisted steering to the Outback for 2015, and while you'll note that Autoblog editors are not normally not crazy about the sensation-sapping but fuel-saving technology, if there's a class where it really works, it's with larger, less dynamics-oriented vehicles like the family crossover segment. The steering effort in the Outback is linear, building weight nicely from an on-center dead zone. Feedback through the wheel isn't exactly telepathic, although much like the suspension, there is more chatter than might reasonably be expected.

Now, common wisdom might tell us that the use of a flat engine and all-wheel drive is not a recipe for great fuel efficiency. However, thanks in part to that CVT, Subaru has managed to eke out 33 miles per gallon on the freeway with the 2.5-liter Outback, a figure that's complemented by a 25-mpg city rating. That's pretty darn impressive for a vehicle that's so spacious and reasonably priced. In fact, this tester offers up better city and highway fuel economy than the four-cylinder, front-wheel-drive competitors mentioned earlier, and it's got an impressive 8.7 inches of ground clearance. As ever, your real world experience will vary, but I didn't have much trouble matching the Outback's city fuel economy rating, although as my driving was about 40-percent freeway, I estimate I'd have gotten closer to the 28-mpg combined rating.


A mid-spec 2.5i Premium model starts at $26,995, not counting an $850 destination charge. That's $2,100 over the $24,895 price of a base Outback, but that number includes standard dual-zone climate control, heated front seats, a seven-inch touchscreen display and 17-inch alloy wheels, making it a pretty fair bargain.

For those that want a bit more on their Outback, you'll want to check out the $3,390 package fitted to my tester. It includes a sunroof, power liftgate, a navigation function for the touchscreen display and Subaru's EyeSight system. Those options are also available independently, with the EyeSight system and the sunroof/liftgate combo retailing for $1,695 apiece.

Beyond their ability to move all sorts of stuff and kin, there's nothing particularly exciting about the midsize crossover segment for enthusiasts. Sedans or hatchbacks will almost always deliver better driving dynamics, which isn't exactly a revelation. With the Outback, though, Subaru has delivered more car-like experience while maintaining the abilities and attributes inherent in a crossover body. It's that combination that makes it an easy vehicle for an enthusiast to recommend and for a family to live with.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/22/2...utback-review/
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 12:34 AM
  #2  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 75,176
Received 2,498 Likes on 1,642 Posts
Default

an aztek looks beautiful next to this thing.
bitkahuna is online now  
Old 10-24-14, 10:58 AM
  #3  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 91,427
Received 87 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
an aztek looks beautiful next to this thing.
You aren't serious, are you?.

Last edited by mmarshall; 10-24-14 at 02:07 PM.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 11:57 AM
  #4  
MikeP
Advanced
 
MikeP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 533
Received 26 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
an aztek looks beautiful next to this thing.
....and some people think Lexus' grill looks like a cheese grater. Isn't diversity great?
MikeP is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 12:37 PM
  #5  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikeP
....and some people think Lexus' grill looks like a cheese grater. Isn't diversity great?
Noted you have this car in your sig. What are your feelings/experience vs the article thus far?
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 01:08 PM
  #6  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 75,176
Received 2,498 Likes on 1,642 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
You aren't serious, are you?.
pretty much



this is a car trying to impersonate an suv, and it's failing.

wheels look too small.
this WAGON is jacked up ridiculously.
the front and rear overhangs are giant, disproportional, and ugly.
the interior looks 15 years old.

but like an old volvo 240 wagon years ago, there's gonna be fans and lovers just because... not denying the subie awd is great in foul weather though.
bitkahuna is online now  
Old 10-24-14, 02:14 PM
  #7  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 91,427
Received 87 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
pretty much



this is a car trying to impersonate an suv, and it's failing.

wheels look too small.
this WAGON is jacked up ridiculously.
the front and rear overhangs are giant, disproportional, and ugly.
the interior looks 15 years old.

but like an old volvo 240 wagon years ago, there's gonna be fans and lovers just because... not denying the subie awd is great in foul weather though.

Your opinions noted, but Outbacks are designed like that for a reason (I owned one myself for more than 6 years). The square, conservative body style means good interior space efficiency and outward visibility. The high stance and wheel-well gaps mean several things.....decent approach/breakover/departure angles, no problems with speed bumps, no lower-front-end scrapes on raised concrete blocks when parking, good clearance for deep snow/mud, mild off-roading, and plenty of space to get a nose inside and/or under and PROPERLY clean the wheel-wells and underside (or just to remove the inevitable snow build-up in the wells). And most of the controls are designed to be user-friendly, not a user-nightmare like I-Drive or MMI.

Last edited by mmarshall; 10-24-14 at 02:18 PM.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 02:26 PM
  #8  
MikeP
Advanced
 
MikeP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 533
Received 26 Likes on 15 Posts
Red face

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Noted you have this car in your sig. What are your feelings/experience vs the article thus far?
The OB is my first non-Lexus vehicle in at least 15 years, so I was reluctant to switch to another brand. I bought a 2010 RX350 and a 2013 RX450h, because I was looking for higher seating and the functionality of an SUV, without the stiff ride that usually accompanies one. In both cases, I was disappointed in the RX because of the overly bouncy ride and numerous rattles. I was also not happy with all the hard plastic interior panels.

A friend was looking to replace his 2003 Vibe with another small CUV that was safe and got good fuel economy. I recommended a Subaru Forester and we went to test drive one. He bought a Forester and he asked me to drive it and give him my impressions. I was surprised at how tight everything felt with no rattles and pretty good quality interior panels for the price. When the '15 Outbacks were starting to ship to dealers a couple of months after my friend bought his Forester, I went for a test drive. The OB rode more car-like than the Forester, but still had the vault-like feel to it. The seats, for my butt, were more comfortable than the '13 GS350 I had at the time. The infotainment system was more intuitive, although I wish the monitor was a similar size as the GS. What surprised me most was how rattle-free it was. The cargo cover was quiet, as was the rear seat latches, unlike both RX's.

After a couple of test drives, I was hooked. The MSRP was a bargain for the level of equipment and better yet, most dealers will not blink when asked if they would sell at or below invoice. I took delivery on August 22 and after 1550 miles, I really like it. Sure the 2.5 boxer could use more power, but I don't carry more than one or two people and living in the South, there are no hills to climb. The CVT with its programmed shift points feels much more "normal" than the CVT in my ES300h, which just droned at a constant level. There are features I had gotten used to with my Lexus vehicles that I do miss and I have to admit the manufacturing quality control is not at Toyota or Lexus levels. My OB is an early-build vehicle and has a rear door alignment and wind noise issues. Hopefully these 2 problems will be fixed in time. So far Subaru of America and my dealer have been attentive to my concerns and when I drop my OB at the dealer, I get a loaner. I don't get chocolate chip cookies, nor free sodas, but I have access to the techs and it's a much less formal atmosphere at the dealer, much like Lexus was 20 years ago.

As far as the exterior design, it is bland to many enthusiasts, but I like it. It is a very honest vehicle, comfortable, safe, reliable and reasonably priced, without pretending to be anything other than what it is advertised to be.
Attached Thumbnails Review: 2015 Subaru Outback-img_0133.jpg  

Last edited by MikeP; 10-24-14 at 02:32 PM.
MikeP is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 03:04 PM
  #9  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 91,427
Received 87 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikeP
The OB is my first non-Lexus vehicle in at least 15 years,
Congratulations. When I bought my 2006 Outback, it was for many of the same reasons you outlined above. And, like you, I had owned a Lexus previously....an IS300. (that's how I joined CL). Mine was not quite as reliable as I had expected, and went through its engine cooling fan-motor and power-window-regulator earlier than usual, but it still was no lemon by any means.

PM me if you'd like a small bottle of SCRATCH-OUT for your new Outback. Good stuff.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 04:20 PM
  #10  
MikeP
Advanced
 
MikeP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 533
Received 26 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Congratulations. When I bought my 2006 Outback, it was for many of the same reasons you outlined above. And, like you, I had owned a Lexus previously....an IS300. (that's how I joined CL). Mine was not quite as reliable as I had expected, and went through its engine cooling fan-motor and power-window-regulator earlier than usual, but it still was no lemon by any means.

PM me if you'd like a small bottle of SCRATCH-OUT for your new Outback. Good stuff.
Mike, thanks for the offer of SCRATCH-OUT, but I had seen you mention it before and bought some to have just in case. I do have to say that I take the same care of my Outback at $30K as I did with my $65K LS460. I park at the opposite end of parking lots, wash it weekly and wax it every other week. My camping experience, by choice, is a hotel room at La Quinta, cooking complementary waffles for breakfast. I've finally figured my call in life is to produce immaculate, low mileage, like new pre-owned vehicles. When I traded my '13 GS350, it didn't have a scratch and had less than 5000 miles.
MikeP is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 04:23 PM
  #11  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikeP
The OB is my first non-Lexus vehicle in at least 15 years, so I was reluctant to switch to another brand. I bought a 2010 RX350 and a 2013 RX450h, because I was looking for higher seating and the functionality of an SUV, without the stiff ride that usually accompanies one. In both cases, I was disappointed in the RX because of the overly bouncy ride and numerous rattles. I was also not happy with all the hard plastic interior panels.

A friend was looking to replace his 2003 Vibe with another small CUV that was safe and got good fuel economy. I recommended a Subaru Forester and we went to test drive one. He bought a Forester and he asked me to drive it and give him my impressions. I was surprised at how tight everything felt with no rattles and pretty good quality interior panels for the price. When the '15 Outbacks were starting to ship to dealers a couple of months after my friend bought his Forester, I went for a test drive. The OB rode more car-like than the Forester, but still had the vault-like feel to it. The seats, for my butt, were more comfortable than the '13 GS350 I had at the time. The infotainment system was more intuitive, although I wish the monitor was a similar size as the GS. What surprised me most was how rattle-free it was. The cargo cover was quiet, as was the rear seat latches, unlike both RX's.

After a couple of test drives, I was hooked. The MSRP was a bargain for the level of equipment and better yet, most dealers will not blink when asked if they would sell at or below invoice. I took delivery on August 22 and after 1550 miles, I really like it. Sure the 2.5 boxer could use more power, but I don't carry more than one or two people and living in the South, there are no hills to climb. The CVT with its programmed shift points feels much more "normal" than the CVT in my ES300h, which just droned at a constant level. There are features I had gotten used to with my Lexus vehicles that I do miss and I have to admit the manufacturing quality control is not at Toyota or Lexus levels. My OB is an early-build vehicle and has a rear door alignment and wind noise issues. Hopefully these 2 problems will be fixed in time. So far Subaru of America and my dealer have been attentive to my concerns and when I drop my OB at the dealer, I get a loaner. I don't get chocolate chip cookies, nor free sodas, but I have access to the techs and it's a much less formal atmosphere at the dealer, much like Lexus was 20 years ago.

As far as the exterior design, it is bland to many enthusiasts, but I like it. It is a very honest vehicle, comfortable, safe, reliable and reasonably priced, without pretending to be anything other than what it is advertised to be.
Awesome write up, thank you for sharing
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 05:39 PM
  #12  
MikeP
Advanced
 
MikeP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 533
Received 26 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Awesome write up, thank you for sharing
Coming from you, that's an enormous compliment. Forget mine, yours is spot on and after having my Outback for 2 months, I couldn't have given a more accurate, unbiased and thorough evaluation. I just gave proof of that.
MikeP is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 06:04 PM
  #13  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikeP
Coming from you, that's an enormous compliment. Forget mine, yours is spot on and after having my Outback for 2 months, I couldn't have given a more accurate, unbiased and thorough evaluation. I just gave proof of that.
Appreciate the compliment, but this review is an Autoblog one. My reviews are titled 'Hoovey Review: <Make> <Mode>'

Last few cars I've reviewed have been the TLX 2.4, GS450h, Traverse and a 3IS 350 vs Q50 head to head . That reminds me though I need to do more
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 06:09 PM
  #14  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,926
Received 161 Likes on 119 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Appreciate the compliment, but this review is an Autoblog one. My reviews are titled 'Hoovey Review: <Make> <Mode>'

Last few cars I've reviewed have been the TLX 2.4, GS450h, Traverse and a 3IS 350 vs Q50 head to head . That reminds me though I need to do more
RC/RC-F... just do it
spwolf is offline  
Old 10-24-14, 07:38 PM
  #15  
Whitigir
Lexus Test Driver
 
Whitigir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Marshall...you nailed it ;-)
Whitigir is offline  


Quick Reply: Review: 2015 Subaru Outback



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:37 AM.