Picked up a Tesla Model S for my wife's birthday....my car is still better!!
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Excellent choice & well done. I want a Tesla but in SUV model. I NEED the space. As soon as they introduce a SUV model of comparable range or better I'll buy it.
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All Wheel Drive is pretty much expected on a premium $60,000 plus SUV now days. The Audi Q5, Q7, Benz ML, GL, boxy German Hummer G class, BMW X3, X5, Land Cruiser, Lexus LX, Acura MDX, all of these have AWD standard.
IMO the Tesla would need to at least offer a sophisticated AWD system as an option. And no it can't be an old school transfer case with a lever like my uncle's 1970 Chevy pickup, where you can run it in 2wd most of the time unless you need 4wd. Those are great for saving gas, but it wouldn't fly in 2014 at this price point. AWD vehicles suck the gas, so an AWD Tesla would suck the electrons at a furious rate, reducing your range considerably. Add in the 3rd row seat people expect, a Tesla S currently weighs a hefty 4600lbs. I'm guessing a decent sized, ie Mercedes GL sized suv would be at least another 1000lbs. Not saying it couldn't be done, but man it would be hard to get a decent range out of such a car without sacrificing the space for battery packs.
BTW, the Tesla is a hatchback with a very generous trunk, 26 cubic feet with the seats up, 58 cubic feet down, and you can fit big/weird items into it. Plus it has a 5 cubic foot trunk.
If Tesla really wants to move into Europe and just dominate, I think they need to offer an estate car(a honest to god, low slung station wagon). Something that would double the hauling capacity of the current model S, but still offer the avant garde styling in the same size footprint of the model S. Wagons are just hugely popular in Europe.
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Congrats on your Model S and happy birthday to the Mrs.
I have a friend with a model S in FL and he really likes it. I've driven it a few times and that instant on torque and the electronics of the car are addictive! I'm told getting used to the regen braking is a learned art but stick with it as it really does help with range.
I see you are in IL so it will be interesting to see how the car behaves in below freezing weather for long periods of time. I hope you continue to update us through the seasons.
I have a friend with a model S in FL and he really likes it. I've driven it a few times and that instant on torque and the electronics of the car are addictive! I'm told getting used to the regen braking is a learned art but stick with it as it really does help with range.
I see you are in IL so it will be interesting to see how the car behaves in below freezing weather for long periods of time. I hope you continue to update us through the seasons.
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I think an all electric traditional looking SUV would be a tall order, both figuratively and literally. The aerodynamics just suck on a taller vehicle, which is one of the tricks the Tesla has up its sleeve to increase its range. Plus to make a "one box" vehicle like an SUV, with no trunk bulkhead, you need more steel to increase the structural rigidity and pass stringent rollover requirements.
All Wheel Drive is pretty much expected on a premium $60,000 plus SUV now days. The Audi Q5, Q7, Benz ML, GL, boxy German Hummer G class, BMW X3, X5, Land Cruiser, Lexus LX, Acura MDX, all of these have AWD standard.
IMO the Tesla would need to at least offer a sophisticated AWD system as an option. And no it can't be an old school transfer case with a lever like my uncle's 1970 Chevy pickup, where you can run it in 2wd most of the time unless you need 4wd. Those are great for saving gas, but it wouldn't fly in 2014 at this price point. AWD vehicles suck the gas, so an AWD Tesla would suck the electrons at a furious rate, reducing your range considerably. Add in the 3rd row seat people expect, a Tesla S currently weighs a hefty 4600lbs. I'm guessing a decent sized, ie Mercedes GL sized suv would be at least another 1000lbs. Not saying it couldn't be done, but man it would be hard to get a decent range out of such a car without sacrificing the space for battery packs.
BTW, the Tesla is a hatchback with a very generous trunk, 26 cubic feet with the seats up, 58 cubic feet down, and you can fit big/weird items into it. Plus it has a 5 cubic foot trunk.
If Tesla really wants to move into Europe and just dominate, I think they need to offer an estate car(a honest to god, low slung station wagon). Something that would double the hauling capacity of the current model S, but still offer the avant garde styling in the same size footprint of the model S. Wagons are just hugely popular in Europe.
All Wheel Drive is pretty much expected on a premium $60,000 plus SUV now days. The Audi Q5, Q7, Benz ML, GL, boxy German Hummer G class, BMW X3, X5, Land Cruiser, Lexus LX, Acura MDX, all of these have AWD standard.
IMO the Tesla would need to at least offer a sophisticated AWD system as an option. And no it can't be an old school transfer case with a lever like my uncle's 1970 Chevy pickup, where you can run it in 2wd most of the time unless you need 4wd. Those are great for saving gas, but it wouldn't fly in 2014 at this price point. AWD vehicles suck the gas, so an AWD Tesla would suck the electrons at a furious rate, reducing your range considerably. Add in the 3rd row seat people expect, a Tesla S currently weighs a hefty 4600lbs. I'm guessing a decent sized, ie Mercedes GL sized suv would be at least another 1000lbs. Not saying it couldn't be done, but man it would be hard to get a decent range out of such a car without sacrificing the space for battery packs.
BTW, the Tesla is a hatchback with a very generous trunk, 26 cubic feet with the seats up, 58 cubic feet down, and you can fit big/weird items into it. Plus it has a 5 cubic foot trunk.
If Tesla really wants to move into Europe and just dominate, I think they need to offer an estate car(a honest to god, low slung station wagon). Something that would double the hauling capacity of the current model S, but still offer the avant garde styling in the same size footprint of the model S. Wagons are just hugely popular in Europe.
What they did with the awe system is like the toyota/lexus hybrids. They simply tacked on another electric motor to the rear wheels
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We got the 60 kwh battery. P85+ is overkill for my wife's driving habits.
Thank you! My wife and I worked very hard throughout our twenties lol. We turned down any help from our parents. I would be comfortable driving it down to about 25 miles remaining....similar to when the "low fuel" light turns on in a gasoline vehicle. I know the gauge is optimistic without regenerative braking because, for example, a round trip to Chicago is 50 miles, but when we get home the range is down almost 60 miles.
Thank you, sir. Actually, all those cars at the Tesla shop are accounted for....either scheduled new deliveries or customer cars in for service checkups. If you go to the Tesla store in Oakbrook to buy a car that day, they will tell you it's a 2 month wait. I would have preferred an AWD Tesla too, but I really wanted my wife to get a car for her 30th birthday....the memory will last forever. The MobileEye technology is pretty amazing. I think it's just a matter of time til it catches on.
Congratulations from a fellow Chicagolander.
I commute past the Tesla shop and it looks like they are finally able to build some inventory.
I am hoping the D is the AWD version of the S.
I am also hoping they include the MobileEye semiautonomous stuff. I really like what it does for my Q50.
I commute past the Tesla shop and it looks like they are finally able to build some inventory.
I am hoping the D is the AWD version of the S.
I am also hoping they include the MobileEye semiautonomous stuff. I really like what it does for my Q50.
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Congrats on the new car!
I was just at a Tesla dealer today and was given a little different information about the charging. The person I talked to said they recommend leaving the car plugged when at home or not in use - sounds contrary 90% charge thing.
Also, the warranty, as I read, is 8 years/125k on the 60 and 8 years unlimited mileage on the 85 and P85.
I was just at a Tesla dealer today and was given a little different information about the charging. The person I talked to said they recommend leaving the car plugged when at home or not in use - sounds contrary 90% charge thing.
Also, the warranty, as I read, is 8 years/125k on the 60 and 8 years unlimited mileage on the 85 and P85.
I might let the Toyota go eventually, if I start looking for a Gallardo.
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It is recommended to leave the car plugged in when at home or not in use, but RSXF is right. You set the Tesla to charge the battery only to a certain percent. When we took delivery, the battery is set to charge to around 85% capacity as default from the factory. Warranty is 4 years standard on the 60 with option to extend to 8 years for extra money. Pretty sure you are correct about 85/P85.
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I might let the Toyota go eventually, if I start looking for a Gallardo.
You are not alone
I might let the Toyota go eventually, if I start looking for a Gallardo.
BTW, if you want to buy a Lamborghini, buy something a bit older and more esoteric, an Espada, a Miura, a Countach, a 400GT, an Espada, an Islero.
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It is recommended to leave the car plugged in when at home or not in use, but RSXF is right. You set the Tesla to charge the battery only to a certain percent. When we took delivery, the battery is set to charge to around 85% capacity as default from the factory. Warranty is 4 years standard on the 60 with option to extend to 8 years for extra money. Pretty sure you are correct about 85/P85.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/performance
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Interesting group of cars. With you being in IL, how do you get along during the winter? I feel like the Tesla's reduced range and the other cars not being known for their snow capability would be of concern.
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As I understand it, all automotive hybrid and pure-electric battery-packs are required to have an 8 year warranty by Federal law.
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Congrats on your Model S and happy birthday to the Mrs.
I have a friend with a model S in FL and he really likes it. I've driven it a few times and that instant on torque and the electronics of the car are addictive! I'm told getting used to the regen braking is a learned art but stick with it as it really does help with range.
I see you are in IL so it will be interesting to see how the car behaves in below freezing weather for long periods of time. I hope you continue to update us through the seasons.
I have a friend with a model S in FL and he really likes it. I've driven it a few times and that instant on torque and the electronics of the car are addictive! I'm told getting used to the regen braking is a learned art but stick with it as it really does help with range.
I see you are in IL so it will be interesting to see how the car behaves in below freezing weather for long periods of time. I hope you continue to update us through the seasons.
Thanks. Model X is coming. Battery tech can only get better, not worse.
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Oh come on now, a Gallardo???? That's the poser Lamborghini. Honestly I think they sold more Gallardos in the USA than they did Supras. If you mod your Supra, its going to be faster than a Gallardo anyways.
BTW, if you want to buy a Lamborghini, buy something a bit older and more esoteric, an Espada, a Miura, a Countach, a 400GT, an Espada, an Islero.
BTW, if you want to buy a Lamborghini, buy something a bit older and more esoteric, an Espada, a Miura, a Countach, a 400GT, an Espada, an Islero.
I respect your opinion, but I have no interest in modding my Supra to the max, which I can if I wanted to, nor do I have any interest in any old, money-pit Lamborghinis. I only listen to suggestions from people I know and are more successful than me, not strangers on the internet. I think I am doing pretty good for 30 years old. These are my opinions.
Are there two different warranties for the Model S? Powertrain and battery? The 60, as I was told yesterday, shows 8 yrs/125k standard for the battery warranty - can't find anything saying it costs extra.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/performance
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/performance
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Thanks for your input.
I respect your opinion, but I have no interest in modding my Supra to the max, which I can if I wanted to, nor do I have any interest in any old, money-pit Lamborghinis. I only listen to suggestions from people I know and are more successful than me, not strangers on the internet. I think I am doing pretty good for 30 years old. These are my opinions.
I respect your opinion, but I have no interest in modding my Supra to the max, which I can if I wanted to, nor do I have any interest in any old, money-pit Lamborghinis. I only listen to suggestions from people I know and are more successful than me, not strangers on the internet. I think I am doing pretty good for 30 years old. These are my opinions.
Hahaha, good point. Haters gonna hate. I just like older, more eccentric cars, if I had 100k to blow on a car, it wouldn't be something made in the last 10-15 years that everybody else has.
I don't really care if its slower or a money pit, as long as its interesting to look at and has that great "mechanical" feel to it like a lot of older cars, I don't really care. I'm thinking at 100k, 1960's C2 or C3 big block Corvette. Or maybe something a bit esoteric like a Maserati Merak, Detsmado Pantera, E type Jag, Jensen Interceptor, Fiat Dino,