GM To Idle ATS & CTS Plant For 3 Weeks; CTS Has 215 Day Supply
#166
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this from edmunds, for example:
Comfort is king for a big Cadillac, and the XTS doesn't disappoint. The same adaptive suspension that keeps the body composed in corners provides a firm yet buttery-smooth ride on most surfaces. It's far from the floaty Cadillac land yachts of yore, but when you're rolling down the highway in an XTS, there's no doubt you're in the lap of luxury.
i'd be surprised if cadillac drops the xts, as the lts is MUCH bigger, isn't it? and likely rwd?
#167
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Actually, I've seen and reviewed much worse vehicles. The XTS is not a terrible car...I called it a joke simply because, IMO, it is not a proper Cadillac flagship. I said more or less the same thing about the XTS's arch-rival Lincoln MKS.
SW13GS, who initially agreed with me on the poor ride, suggested, though, that because of recent (possible) changes to the XTS's suspension/tires (and other reviewers calling it comfortable), it might be worth another test-drive for both of us. I'm open-minded enough to maybe give it another try.....I found that some (not all) of my earlier criticisms of the Lexus ES350's newly-firmer ride were mitigated by higher temperatures and softer tire rubber and shock-fluid.
the CUE system needs a bit of work, but it's not terrible.
i'd be surprised if cadillac drops the xts, as the lts is MUCH bigger, isn't it? and likely rwd?
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also, the lts may well be MUCH more expensive.
#169
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
also, the lts may well be MUCH more expensive.
#171
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you've certainly expressed over and over how bad you think the XTS is, especially the ride, but the press seems overall, to like it.
this from edmunds, for example:
the CUE system needs a bit of work, but it's not terrible.
i'd be surprised if cadillac drops the xts, as the lts is MUCH bigger, isn't it? and likely rwd?
this from edmunds, for example:
the CUE system needs a bit of work, but it's not terrible.
i'd be surprised if cadillac drops the xts, as the lts is MUCH bigger, isn't it? and likely rwd?
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I was recently in an XTS livery cab in NYC and I don't know what the fuss is over the ride. Yes, it was harsher than the crown vic and town car livery cabs I've ridden but no where near the deal breaker some are saying it is. Maybe it was a more recent version, as this was the first time I was in one. Sped over NYC bumps and potholes like a champ and it was quite comfy in the back.
I don't think the XTS will/should go away. My understanding is that the LTS will be bigger, RWD, and much more expensive. But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
I don't think the XTS will/should go away. My understanding is that the LTS will be bigger, RWD, and much more expensive. But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
#174
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Originally Posted by T0ked
But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
#175
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I was recently in an XTS livery cab in NYC and I don't know what the fuss is over the ride. Yes, it was harsher than the crown vic and town car livery cabs I've ridden but no where near the deal breaker some are saying it is. Maybe it was a more recent version, as this was the first time I was in one. Sped over NYC bumps and potholes like a champ and it was quite comfy in the back.
I don't think the XTS will/should go away. My understanding is that the LTS will be bigger, RWD, and much more expensive. But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
I don't think the XTS will/should go away. My understanding is that the LTS will be bigger, RWD, and much more expensive. But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
Funny. A couple of months ago when visiting a Caddy dealership for their $100 gift card test drive offer, the dealership had an otherwise nice enough pearl white XTS on the floor. BUT it had a navy blue vinyl/cloth looking roof, gold badges and whitewalls with the gold ring on them. Who knows, maybe it sold faster than the ATS, CTS SRX and normal XTS on the floor.
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I don't think the XTS will/should go away. My understanding is that the LTS will be bigger, RWD, and much more expensive. But once the it does come out, maybe the XTS should really become the DTS replacement. Soften up the suspension some more, get rid of the CUE, offer the vinyl roof option, and whitewall tires. LOL
like the phone for old luddites...
#177
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Funny. A couple of months ago when visiting a Caddy dealership for their $100 gift card test drive offer, the dealership had an otherwise nice enough pearl white XTS on the floor. BUT it had a navy blue vinyl/cloth looking roof, gold badges and whitewalls with the gold ring on them. Who knows, maybe it sold faster than the ATS, CTS SRX and normal XTS on the floor.
Funny. A couple of months ago when visiting a Caddy dealership for their $100 gift card test drive offer, the dealership had an otherwise nice enough pearl white XTS on the floor. BUT it had a navy blue vinyl/cloth looking roof, gold badges and whitewalls with the gold ring on them. Who knows, maybe it sold faster than the ATS, CTS SRX and normal XTS on the floor.
#178
The XTS Vsport is a compelling alternative to those RWD stablemates offering big luxury and more than enough performance for the everyday. The XTS is like Cadillac's 'ES' albeit one size up once the ATS, CTS and LTS become the core RWD sedan offerings no different than IS, GS, LS, A4, A6, A8, 3, 5, 7, C, E, S, XE, XF, XJ.
#179
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Funny. A couple of months ago when visiting a Caddy dealership for their $100 gift card test drive offer, the dealership had an otherwise nice enough pearl white XTS on the floor. BUT it had a navy blue vinyl/cloth looking roof, gold badges and whitewalls with the gold ring on them. Who knows, maybe it sold faster than the ATS, CTS SRX and normal XTS on the floor.
Funny. A couple of months ago when visiting a Caddy dealership for their $100 gift card test drive offer, the dealership had an otherwise nice enough pearl white XTS on the floor. BUT it had a navy blue vinyl/cloth looking roof, gold badges and whitewalls with the gold ring on them. Who knows, maybe it sold faster than the ATS, CTS SRX and normal XTS on the floor.
Caddy needs to let go--and compel their dealers to do so. Offer referrals to a local body shop that will do that treatment, if you want to cater to your customers.
#180
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Same here. To me, THAT is the biggest hinderance to Caddy's renaissance. I have seen 1 or 2 Lexus LS's with the vinyl top, but you would never see that on the dealer's showroom floor. And I have never seen a German car with that treatment.
Caddy needs to let go--and compel their dealers to do so. Offer referrals to a local body shop that will do that treatment, if you want to cater to your customers.
Caddy needs to let go--and compel their dealers to do so. Offer referrals to a local body shop that will do that treatment, if you want to cater to your customers.