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Next Lexus LS (2018 model)
10-06-15, 10:38 AM
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Wishful thinking, but they need to utilize their carbon fiber loom on the LS. Either that, or basically make all exterior panels out of aluminum. Something to show some sort of engineering thought into weight savings. IT must have full LCD speedo to go along with the 12 inch nav screen. It should be at the forefront of self driving technology and the interior materials should be the current LS to shame. Make a hybrid that is actually worth buying or dont make it at all and a gas powered version that is as powerful as it is easy on fuel. I shouldn't even need to mentioned this points, but if it checks these boxes, then it will at least be a decent competitor.
10-06-15, 12:50 PM
#184
putting cf in the LS is going to be a hard sell. it might be cool for the weight but that's not remotely what the buyers are looking for. they don't mind a 2 ton vehicle, they want what it has to offer. phil said it right, features and electronics. both the 7 and s have demonstrated that. making it work flawlessly after 6 years is important too, that's what differentiate lexus from bmw / mb. and yes, power is a problem, no matter how you slice it the current v8 setup in the LS is not as attractive
i will say though, lexus decided to prolong the current platform for another 3-4 years (2013-2016), it was a gamble but i think that's for a very good reason too. they have had plenty of time to see how high mb has set the bar
i will say though, lexus decided to prolong the current platform for another 3-4 years (2013-2016), it was a gamble but i think that's for a very good reason too. they have had plenty of time to see how high mb has set the bar
10-06-15, 03:50 PM
#186
self-driving is the next big thing and i predict mercedes will be first to have it on a purchasable big luxury car.
besides that, connectivity, sensor packages, integration/coordination, and user experience are the battleground. i believe the car maker that makes a big leap in voice recognition will gain an advantage too - most systems are still pretty bad compared to siri / google now / cortana.
a big luxury car should also have 4G connectivity standard.
Currently Volvo, Subaru and Toyota/Lexus have the best auto-brake systems, and all germans are currently behind one generation.
For next LS, they need to create good looking vehicle, that has extravagant interior. Thats the most basic thing that has to happen. I dont doubt that tech will be up to par, as well as hybrid model. New LS should also show us new platform for luxury RWD from Lexus.
But it has to be luxurious, extravagant looking both inside and out, thats the main requirement.
10-06-15, 04:11 PM
#187
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10-06-15, 04:34 PM
#188
germans are currently behind when it comes to automated driving tech though... the fact you dont know what shows how important it is :-).
Currently Volvo, Subaru and Toyota/Lexus have the best auto-brake systems, and all germans are currently behind one generation.
For next LS, they need to create good looking vehicle, that has extravagant interior. Thats the most basic thing that has to happen. I dont doubt that tech will be up to par, as well as hybrid model. New LS should also show us new platform for luxury RWD from Lexus.
But it has to be luxurious, extravagant looking both inside and out, thats the main requirement.
Currently Volvo, Subaru and Toyota/Lexus have the best auto-brake systems, and all germans are currently behind one generation.
For next LS, they need to create good looking vehicle, that has extravagant interior. Thats the most basic thing that has to happen. I dont doubt that tech will be up to par, as well as hybrid model. New LS should also show us new platform for luxury RWD from Lexus.
But it has to be luxurious, extravagant looking both inside and out, thats the main requirement.
http://youtu.be/VDwMhSobaOg
10-06-15, 05:03 PM
#189
I'd say look at this video before you claim Mercedes is lagging in self driving
http://youtu.be/VDwMhSobaOg
http://youtu.be/VDwMhSobaOg
No amount of PR videos can change that.
10-06-15, 05:14 PM
#190
Check this long distance self driving
http://youtu.be/CKqJccK_EkM
10-06-15, 05:15 PM
#191
I really want to see Lexus double down on hybrid technology. Bigger battery capacity & more powerful electric motors to give the range topping LS h the power of an S63 (550+hp) with 40mpg fuel economy. Lexus can't continue to make hybrids with:
- marginally more power (386hp LS460 vs 438hp LS600h)
- slightly better fuel economy (18mpg LS460 AWD vs 20mpg LS600h L AWD)
- a huge premium over non-hybrid option (current LS600h base price is 40k+ more than the equivalent non-hybrid model)
The current LS600h and it's pricing ($120k base price) makes ZERO sense in a world where you can get a top of the line Tesla P85D with 760hp
and 98empg (300+ miles range) for $105k.
Maybe I'll share my thoughts on what the rest of the LS range should look like later.
- marginally more power (386hp LS460 vs 438hp LS600h)
- slightly better fuel economy (18mpg LS460 AWD vs 20mpg LS600h L AWD)
- a huge premium over non-hybrid option (current LS600h base price is 40k+ more than the equivalent non-hybrid model)
The current LS600h and it's pricing ($120k base price) makes ZERO sense in a world where you can get a top of the line Tesla P85D with 760hp
and 98empg (300+ miles range) for $105k.Maybe I'll share my thoughts on what the rest of the LS range should look like later.
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10-06-15, 05:52 PM
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Silly? A car that can recognize pedestrians, slow down, brake , steer away is silly?
Check this long distance self driving
http://youtu.be/CKqJccK_EkM
Check this long distance self driving
http://youtu.be/CKqJccK_EkM
10-06-15, 06:07 PM
#193
10-06-15, 07:19 PM
#194
I don't care so much for engines or any of the fancy automated drive technologies. These automated technologies are a useless gimmick, and even the current LS engine is more than adequate.
I'd love to see them implement either air or magnetic suspension with all the modern trickery, and make the unibody a lot more rigid to make it ride with more authority and confidence at high speeds.
But most of all, I wish they would get rid of their convoluted remote touch interface and just swallow their pride and copy iDrive already.
I'd love to see them implement either air or magnetic suspension with all the modern trickery, and make the unibody a lot more rigid to make it ride with more authority and confidence at high speeds.
But most of all, I wish they would get rid of their convoluted remote touch interface and just swallow their pride and copy iDrive already.
10-06-15, 08:10 PM
#195
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