Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > General Forums > Car Chat
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

MM Full-Review: 2014 Infiniti Q50

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-05-14, 11:01 AM   #91
obturator
Pole Position
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: tx
Posts: 354
Default

C&D July 2014 issue gave another less than stellar review of the Q50S.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
obturator is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-14, 11:24 AM   #92
JDR76
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
JDR76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: WA
Posts: 1,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by obturator View Post
C&D July 2014 issue gave another less than stellar review of the Q50S.
I actually found it to be a pretty hollow review, and didn't really state one way or the other how they liked the car. Mainly that they tried a Q50S without DAS and, as expected, the car is better without it. They did complain about the packaging of options and all that is not available on the Q50S without DAS (no DAS means no power tilt and telescoping steering column, split folding rear seats, the Around view Monitor, or the auto dimming mirrors).

Despite the lack of features, their tested model had a list price of $50,955, mostly due to an expensive $4300 wheel and tire package.
__________________
2013 RX350 AWD
2014 IS350 AWD

Last edited by JDR76; 06-05-14 at 11:28 AM..
JDR76 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-14, 11:47 AM   #93
TangoRed
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JDR76 View Post
I actually found it to be a pretty hollow review, and didn't really state one way or the other how they liked the car. Mainly that they tried a Q50S without DAS and, as expected, the car is better without it. They did complain about the packaging of options and all that is not available on the Q50S without DAS (no DAS means no power tilt and telescoping steering column, split folding rear seats, the Around view Monitor, or the auto dimming mirrors).

Despite the lack of features, their tested model had a list price of $50,955, mostly due to an expensive $4300 wheel and tire package.
Exactly. They spent 80% of the article talking about DAS and the packages that make it mandatory. Based on previous tests they like the bones of the Q50 and its luxurious interior, but DAS needs refinement.
TangoRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-14, 12:23 PM   #94
obturator
Pole Position
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: tx
Posts: 354
Default

I agree with you guys. DAS was suppose to be this great, innovative selling feature for this car. To get the car without it would involve losing a lot of other luxury items because of how Infiniti packaged all their nannies like the 360 degree camera, etc. It's a shame because it is a great car inside and out. Nonetheless, it was an uninspiring review.

Last edited by obturator; 06-05-14 at 12:29 PM..
obturator is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-14, 05:37 PM   #95
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 50,351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by obturator
To get the car without it would involve losing a lot of other luxury items because of how Infiniti packaged all their nannies like the 360 degree camera, etc.
Perhaps the most annoying Infiniti nanny, even more so than the DAS (which I haven't tried yet), is the Lane-Change Warning system. I have never liked that feature in any Infiniti product (it is now spreading to some other automakers as well). If you don't steer like you are on railroad tracks, and (seemingly) drift just a couple of inches either way, the beepers go off almost continuously. On the M45 Sport I reviewed a few years ago, I finally had to stop, figure out where the button was, and shut the device off before it drove me nuts. Same with some other Infiniti's I've sampled. Besides, IMO, a driver should be alert and competent enough so that he or she doesn't need electronics to steer the car straight. If he or she can't even do that.........shouldn't have a Drivers' License.
__________________
mmarshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-14, 08:09 PM   #96
S2000toIS350
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 1,244
Default

MM, your reviews are the best but I do not believe you are accurately describing the system's behaviors.

I have seat time since last August.

If you go across the lane line, yes, it will beep away.

It generally does mild corrections (but quietly) if it senses you are getting close to the lane line.

The lights that trigger (inside the car near the external side mirrors) when a vehicle is next to you are quite useful to avoid sideswiping someone in a blind spot, when you make a quick decision to change lanes (without making sure all is clear).

The system also pays extra attention if for example you put your left blinker on and it has already sensed someone is next to you or if it does not believe you can safety execute a lane change.

One of my favorite behavior modifiers the car does is, if it thinks you are getting to close to the car ahead of you, it will have the gas pedal push back while you are trying to push it forward (i.e., look stupid, if you keep your foot on the gas you are going to hit the dude in front of you).
__________________
S2000toIS350
S2000toIS350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 06:18 AM   #97
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 50,351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by S2000toIS350 View Post
MM, your reviews are the best
Thanks....glad you enjoy them.

Quote:
,but I do not believe you are accurately describing the system's behaviors.
Yes, they have been fine-tuned over the several years since they came out. I probably didn't emphasize that quite enough.



Quote:
I have seat time since last August.

If you go across the lane line, yes, it will beep away.

It generally does mild corrections (but quietly) if it senses you are getting close to the lane line.

The lights that trigger (inside the car near the external side mirrors) when a vehicle is next to you are quite useful to avoid sideswiping someone in a blind spot, when you make a quick decision to change lanes (without making sure all is clear).

The system also pays extra attention if for example you put your left blinker on and it has already sensed someone is next to you or if it does not believe you can safety execute a lane change.

One of my favorite behavior modifiers the car does is, if it thinks you are getting to close to the car ahead of you, it will have the gas pedal push back while you are trying to push it forward (i.e., look stupid, if you keep your foot on the gas you are going to hit the dude in front of you).
I agree with much of what you say, but, to me, the system still not an excuse for not paying attention. In fact, it's generally easier for me to pay attention if I'm NOT being distracted by beeping-devices.

While I'm not totally against electronic safety-devices (some of them, to me, do make sense, like ABS), I'm generally of the opinion that careful and common-sense driving is the best device of all.
__________________
mmarshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 07:28 AM   #98
bitkahuna
resisting entropy
Trader Score: (15)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 45,295
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarshall View Post
While I'm not totally against electronic safety-devices (some of them, to me, do make sense, like ABS), I'm generally of the opinion that careful and common-sense driving is the best device of all.
like it or not, these systems will be across the board in a few years.

then the govt will require them, then they won't be able to be turned off.

just watch...
__________________
TLN #911 * Stop Global Whining
9/11- never forget
nosce te ipsum
bitkahuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 07:53 AM   #99
obturator
Pole Position
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: tx
Posts: 354
Default

I'm with mmarshall. BSM, yes. RCTA, yes. PCS, no. Lane assist, no. Why? Sometimes during aggressive or defensive maneuvering, I can't have the system prevent or delay me from doing what I want/need the car to do. It's one thing when the system just beeps and another when the system actually steers or applies the brakes. But then again, I could turn off these nannies. Don't text or have inane conversations on the phone or bluetooth while driving. Don't tailgate. It's that simple to stay aware of your surroundings. Of course there are exceptions.

Last edited by obturator; 06-09-14 at 09:00 AM..
obturator is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 08:07 AM   #100
LexFather
Guest
Trader Score: ()
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by obturator View Post
I'm with mmarshall. BSM, yes. RCTA, yes. PCS, no. Lane assist, no. Why? Sometimes during aggressive or defensive maneuvering, I can't have the system prevent or delay me from doing what I want the car to do. It's one thing when the system just beeps and another when the system actually steers or applies the brakes. But then again, I could turn off these nannies. Don't text or have inane conversations on the phone or bluetooth while driving. Don't tailgate. It's that simple to stay aware of your surroundings. Of course there are exceptions.
The HS 250h had these features back in 2009/2010 and I agree lane assist was the one I liked the least driving around most of the time. However when one is tired late a night it can alert you if one drifts out of their lane.

I also remember how intrusive it was on the M56 I drove a few years ago.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 08:15 AM   #101
Och
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (3)
 
Och's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 10,689
Send a message via AIM to Och
Default

Good luck with lane assist on the BQE.
Och is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 02:18 PM   #102
chikoo
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
chikoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 2,489
Default

Very soon we will be driving this, albeit on electronic railway tracks

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________

2008 IS250 - Obsidian Black with Black leather.
Premium Pkg, Nav system, P225/40YR18 front & P255/40YR18 rear tires, Rear Lip Spoiler, F-sport Shocks.
chikoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 09:46 AM   #103
mondo540
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: OH
Posts: 102
Default

Nice review....this car has been slowly rising to near the top of my list but I am waiting for 2015's to come out. I am leaning Hybrid this time around but want something more enthusiast oriented than a Fusion, MKZ or ES for around 50K...if I can get 30+ mpg with the performance I am reading about over in the q50 forums, I will be happy...just seems like the car needs to be a bit more sorted out with all the tech, DAS etc.
__________________
'08 F | Smoky Granite Mica| Hawk Ceramic Pads (Sold)
'00 4Runner Limited
mondo540 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 09:57 AM   #104
bagwell
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: back in crappy Houston :(
Posts: 7,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarshall View Post
I'm generally of the opinion that careful and common-sense driving is the best device of all.
LMAO....unfortunately, in the houston area these drivers don't exist.

just as an example, on my daily commute home either via vanpool/bus I see countless people texting/talking on the phone while driving on I-45N...(but it's ok, cuz it's not illegal in this joke of a state).

Quote:
Attorney General Greg Abbott is favored to replace Gov. Rick Perry and shares his disdain for efforts to “micromanage” electronic communications device use by the state’s adult drivers. The TxDOT links distracted driving to 90,378 crashes in 2012. Fatalities numbered 453, with serious injuries put at 18,468.
__________________
2010 Acura TSX: 18 inch Gun Metal A-specs, Eibach Pro-Kit, Koni Yellow Shocks, 5000K OSRAM, LED everything
2010 Audi A5 2.0T Quattro, Sport Pkg w/19 inch, B&O, Bi-Xenon

Last edited by bagwell; 06-12-14 at 10:04 AM..
bagwell is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 10:04 AM   #105
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 50,351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chikoo View Post
Very soon we will be driving this, albeit on electronic railway tracks

Click the image to open in full size.
Worse than that. The COMPUTERS will be driving the cars on electronic railway tracks.
__________________
mmarshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 10:04 AM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
2014, black, gray, infiniti, q50, q60, seats, softer

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
driving.ca review: 2014 Infiniti Q50 Hybrid AWD Sport vs 2014 Lexus IS350 AWD F-Sport ydooby IS - Third Generation 7 07-03-14 09:30 PM
Hoovey Review: 2014 Infiniti Q50 vs 2014 Lexus IS350 Hoovey2411 Car Chat 56 06-29-14 08:48 AM
Review: 2014 Infiniti Q50S Hoovey2411 Car Chat 51 02-18-14 12:15 AM
Test drove a Infiniti Q50 Hybrid SimTide985 Car Chat 21 11-15-13 07:44 AM
First Drive: 2014 Infiniti Q50 Hoovey2411 Car Chat 18 08-06-13 08:32 PM

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:08 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info