BMW Vision Future Luxury Concept Previews Next 7-Series Flagship Sedan
12-31-14, 01:42 PM
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Lexus, I hope you don't fail as this 7er with your new LS.
12-31-14, 02:11 PM
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Didn't know they start making 7GT.
12-31-14, 03:11 PM
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Everything isn't always as it seems. I would wait until a full unveiling, which just might be moved up from IAA 2015. I showed this to my mother (F02 760Li owner ) and she likes it, but feels it's too conservative after 7 years. The X360 XJ looks much better than this and both of my parents feel similar.
That will certainly start to affect the 7er at least 2 years into its life-cycle and correct the mistakes of the X351. I'm not surprised anyway, from the June 2012 description I heard from a BMW design clinic of the G11.
Final design sign-off was in the summer of 2012, so clearly that is what the individual saw. A "big F30+F32", planned for 2015-16. No wonder the F01 LCi of 2012 (MY2013) was so minimal. What is Adrian van Hooydonk doing is my question? Failing his predecessor and repeating past mistakes?
The current F01 design was reached in the summer of 2005 and finalised by Q1 2006, so definitely under van Hooydonk as BMW brand design director and Bangle as BMW Group (BMW, Mini, RR, Motorrad) director. The last BMW designed with Bangle there, was the F30 (halfway). F30 design selection on March 2, 2009 was just one month after Bangle left and final prod. freeze months later.
The only 7-Series designed with Bangle fully at the helm was the E65 in 1998 (Jan. 1999 sign-off) via van Hooydonk's own pen and maybe the E38 LCi for late 1998 (1996 sign-off) and E38 LCi II for MY2001 (04/2000-12/2001) signed off in early 1999. The E38 (1991 styling work) was fully signed-off before Bangle arrived at BMW in October 1992 and not even Bangle's predecessor (Claus Luthe, left in April 1990) was present when that happened.
Does BMW need a true change in design leadership? Karim Habib became BMW Brand design director too late, as by the time he got there, lazy van Hooydonk already approved this G11. Back in the '90s, automotive media chastised BMW for the dowdy E36 3-Series in 1990, the predictable E38 7er in 1994, also predictable E39 5er in late 1995, and with extreme annoyance, the E46 in March 1998 at Geneva. From early 1997, BMW was already embarking on a design revolution, that would fully developed by late 1998 via the E65 7-Series.
Chris Bangle did not guide E39 design development (summer 1992 conclusion), but was present for its final production-styling sign-off circa early 1993. He did actually design the production E46 saloon into 1995 and was present for its January 1996 final sign-off. He was able to do both conservative and striking. What really gives here? I hope BMW isn't going try and revolutionize everything with the next 3-Series. If so, they still haven't learned.
That will certainly start to affect the 7er at least 2 years into its life-cycle and correct the mistakes of the X351. I'm not surprised anyway, from the June 2012 description I heard from a BMW design clinic of the G11.
Final design sign-off was in the summer of 2012, so clearly that is what the individual saw. A "big F30+F32", planned for 2015-16. No wonder the F01 LCi of 2012 (MY2013) was so minimal. What is Adrian van Hooydonk doing is my question? Failing his predecessor and repeating past mistakes?
The current F01 design was reached in the summer of 2005 and finalised by Q1 2006, so definitely under van Hooydonk as BMW brand design director and Bangle as BMW Group (BMW, Mini, RR, Motorrad) director. The last BMW designed with Bangle there, was the F30 (halfway). F30 design selection on March 2, 2009 was just one month after Bangle left and final prod. freeze months later.
The only 7-Series designed with Bangle fully at the helm was the E65 in 1998 (Jan. 1999 sign-off) via van Hooydonk's own pen and maybe the E38 LCi for late 1998 (1996 sign-off) and E38 LCi II for MY2001 (04/2000-12/2001) signed off in early 1999. The E38 (1991 styling work) was fully signed-off before Bangle arrived at BMW in October 1992 and not even Bangle's predecessor (Claus Luthe, left in April 1990) was present when that happened.
Does BMW need a true change in design leadership? Karim Habib became BMW Brand design director too late, as by the time he got there, lazy van Hooydonk already approved this G11. Back in the '90s, automotive media chastised BMW for the dowdy E36 3-Series in 1990, the predictable E38 7er in 1994, also predictable E39 5er in late 1995, and with extreme annoyance, the E46 in March 1998 at Geneva. From early 1997, BMW was already embarking on a design revolution, that would fully developed by late 1998 via the E65 7-Series.
Chris Bangle did not guide E39 design development (summer 1992 conclusion), but was present for its final production-styling sign-off circa early 1993. He did actually design the production E46 saloon into 1995 and was present for its January 1996 final sign-off. He was able to do both conservative and striking. What really gives here? I hope BMW isn't going try and revolutionize everything with the next 3-Series. If so, they still haven't learned.
01-01-15, 03:39 AM
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What is strange is that historically, BMW 7er brings in a new interior design layout that waters down through the whole BMW range. But this time the new 7er does not bring anything new, other than a "Mercedes-Chromed" F30 interior. I really like the finish now, finally no more cheap plastic, but the design is not enough for such a car, unless they kept that for a BMW 8er/9er.
01-01-15, 06:46 AM
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2016 BMW 7-Series getting panorama glass roof 'sky lounge' and leather engine cover?
Who needs a leather engine cover?
Hot on the heels of yesterday’s leak, new details are starting to emerge about the 2016 BMW 7-Series.
The cat is pretty much out of the bag in terms of exterior and interior design but now we heard some interesting rumors about a couple of optional goodies BMW will offer for the 7-Series G11 and its G12 long wheelbase sibling. It is believed Bavaria's flagship model will be available at an additional cost with a Panorama Glass Roof "Sky Lounge" which will probably be very generous in size and should create a more airy cabin ambiance.
The other optional feature sounds a little bit peculiar as BMW will allegedly offer a leather-wrapped engine cover instead of the usual plastic. The only logical explanation we can find is that BMW wants to emphasize the new 7-Series is far more luxurious than its predecessor and they have a treat for those very few who will actually pop up the hood and have a look at the engine pampered in leather.
It is believed the all-new BMW 7-Series will make its official debut in September at the Frankfurt Motor Show.
Hot on the heels of yesterday’s leak, new details are starting to emerge about the 2016 BMW 7-Series.
The cat is pretty much out of the bag in terms of exterior and interior design but now we heard some interesting rumors about a couple of optional goodies BMW will offer for the 7-Series G11 and its G12 long wheelbase sibling. It is believed Bavaria's flagship model will be available at an additional cost with a Panorama Glass Roof "Sky Lounge" which will probably be very generous in size and should create a more airy cabin ambiance.
The other optional feature sounds a little bit peculiar as BMW will allegedly offer a leather-wrapped engine cover instead of the usual plastic. The only logical explanation we can find is that BMW wants to emphasize the new 7-Series is far more luxurious than its predecessor and they have a treat for those very few who will actually pop up the hood and have a look at the engine pampered in leather.
It is believed the all-new BMW 7-Series will make its official debut in September at the Frankfurt Motor Show.
01-01-15, 11:39 AM
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