Car and Driver: 2014 CTS 3.6 vs A6 3.0T vs 535i xDrive vs E350
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03-10-14, 10:50 AM
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I had a 528i as a rental a few years ago and thought it was very nice that zf trans is a gem. My buddy has a e60 545 and it is no where near as nice as the current car is. Im not sure where these criticisms are coming. I haven't been a bmw person in the past but these new ones are real nice the interiors are huge improvement over what they have used to be. Im thinking about a x5 as a replacement for my ML500
03-10-14, 10:53 AM
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03-10-14, 10:56 AM
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03-11-14, 11:28 AM
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Infiniti has their Q70 (former M37M56) that could have been included, but has also been pretty uncompetitive in the segment.
I understand you write some reviews MMarshall, but a lot of times your understanding of segments and models seems to be a bit off
I understand you write some reviews MMarshall, but a lot of times your understanding of segments and models seems to be a bit off
03-11-14, 12:17 PM
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Are you kidding me? Lincoln and Infiniti are not in the price range of this test. These models are upwards of $65,000, definitely not MKZ and Q50 competitors, even "on paper" as you suggest.
Lincoln MKS is the larger more premium sedan, that even then, wouldn't be in this segment, and is on its way out. Volvo S80 has been uncompetitive for some time now, and is also due for a major change, no need to include it in this test.
Infiniti has their Q70 (former M37M56) that could have been included, but has also been pretty uncompetitive in the segment.
I understand you write some reviews MMarshall, but a lot of times your understanding of segments and models seems to be a bit off.
Lincoln MKS is the larger more premium sedan, that even then, wouldn't be in this segment, and is on its way out. Volvo S80 has been uncompetitive for some time now, and is also due for a major change, no need to include it in this test.
Infiniti has their Q70 (former M37M56) that could have been included, but has also been pretty uncompetitive in the segment.
I understand you write some reviews MMarshall, but a lot of times your understanding of segments and models seems to be a bit off.
The MKS/S80/ES350 group are in a different class.
03-11-14, 02:06 PM
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Partially true. Depends on trim level. The Q50 starts at 38-39K, The A6 and CTS start in the low 40s...not very far off.
I'll respect your opinion (I don't mind someone questioning my judgement...otherwise I wouldn't post), but the Q70 is actually in a higher price-bracket.....it starts in the high 40s. It is considered a flagship, where the other cars in the test aren't. That's why I didn't include it.
I'll respect your opinion (I don't mind someone questioning my judgement...otherwise I wouldn't post), but the Q70 is actually in a higher price-bracket.....it starts in the high 40s. It is considered a flagship, where the other cars in the test aren't. That's why I didn't include it.
Yes, the Q70 it is Infiniti's current "flagship" after they ditched their Q45, but it competes (albeit not very well) in the heart of the "midsize" premium sedan segment.
The CTS starts at $45K and the A6 starts at $43K, both are on paper, I'm fairly certain you'd be hard pressed to find vehicles at that price point stocked on dealer lots. Whereas the bulk of Q50's on dealer lots will top out somewhere in the low to mid $40K's. Again, look at the avg as tested prices in the article!
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