Reliability vs Resale value...
03-01-14, 09:45 AM
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I think I worded it poorly. I meant that men have the S2000 as a Miata substitute, which does not have the chick car thing to it. The only other true two seat sports car in the sub $50k range would be a lotus, but that is significantly more than either.
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03-01-14, 10:44 AM
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03-01-14, 11:36 AM
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And how come people don't buy a new STI instead they buy Used STI ?
Say a Used 2011 STI with 15k miles on it is now being listed for 32,000$. While the New one limited is only 38k or so...now that is not with the Negotiation yet.
Why not paying 5-6K for a Brand-New ? but Used one ? with the risk of it being Abused, and that is just so common for the platform ...
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Say a Used 2011 STI with 15k miles on it is now being listed for 32,000$. While the New one limited is only 38k or so...now that is not with the Negotiation yet.
Why not paying 5-6K for a Brand-New ? but Used one ? with the risk of it being Abused, and that is just so common for the platform ...
Trully mind Bogging
03-01-14, 01:18 PM
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And how come people don't buy a new STI instead they buy Used STI ?
Say a Used 2011 STI with 15k miles on it is now being listed for 32,000$. While the New one limited is only 38k or so...now that is not with the Negotiation yet.
Why not paying 5-6K for a Brand-New ? but Used one ? with the risk of it being Abused, and that is just so common for the platform ...
Trully mind Bogging
Say a Used 2011 STI with 15k miles on it is now being listed for 32,000$. While the New one limited is only 38k or so...now that is not with the Negotiation yet.
Why not paying 5-6K for a Brand-New ? but Used one ? with the risk of it being Abused, and that is just so common for the platform ...
Trully mind Bogging
03-01-14, 02:52 PM
#21
The first wrong assumption IMHO is that you assume everyone values reliability as a very high priority. Most people would rather have a car they like that is reliably enough, vs a car they don't like with much better reliability. Resale value is basically based off how desirable the product is and how much demand for that product there is.
As to why one might buy a used car with high resale value rather than spend a little more for a brand new one it just depends. In my state when we buy a used car private party we pay no sales tax. That alone could save you some decent cash. In your STi example at $32K used vs $38K new that could be a savings of $8,000 if you bought the new one after you factor in tax, doc fees, new registration fees and so forth. Buying the used one at least in my state would be straight $32K plus $10 for transfer of title and registration. Once the registration expires, than you will pay about $300 a year for registration while on the new one you pay the the sales tax, doc fees, the $300 registration fee all up front.
As to why one might buy a used car with high resale value rather than spend a little more for a brand new one it just depends. In my state when we buy a used car private party we pay no sales tax. That alone could save you some decent cash. In your STi example at $32K used vs $38K new that could be a savings of $8,000 if you bought the new one after you factor in tax, doc fees, new registration fees and so forth. Buying the used one at least in my state would be straight $32K plus $10 for transfer of title and registration. Once the registration expires, than you will pay about $300 a year for registration while on the new one you pay the the sales tax, doc fees, the $300 registration fee all up front.
03-01-14, 03:01 PM
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The first wrong assumption IMHO is that you assume everyone values reliability as a very high priority. Most people would rather have a car they like that is reliably enough, vs a car they don't like with much better reliability. Resale value is basically based off how desirable the product is and how much demand for that product there is.
As to why one might buy a used car with high resale value rather than spend a little more for a brand new one it just depends. In my state when we buy a used car private party we pay no sales tax. That alone could save you some decent cash. In your STi example at $32K used vs $38K new that could be a savings of $8,000 if you bought the new one after you factor in tax, doc fees, new registration fees and so forth. Buying the used one at least in my state would be straight $32K plus $10 for transfer of title and registration. Once the registration expires, than you will pay about $300 a year for registration while on the new one you pay the the sales tax, doc fees, the $300 registration fee all up front.
As to why one might buy a used car with high resale value rather than spend a little more for a brand new one it just depends. In my state when we buy a used car private party we pay no sales tax. That alone could save you some decent cash. In your STi example at $32K used vs $38K new that could be a savings of $8,000 if you bought the new one after you factor in tax, doc fees, new registration fees and so forth. Buying the used one at least in my state would be straight $32K plus $10 for transfer of title and registration. Once the registration expires, than you will pay about $300 a year for registration while on the new one you pay the the sales tax, doc fees, the $300 registration fee all up front.
03-01-14, 03:31 PM
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STI has those issue when people start to tune their car beyond what the stock internal can hold. There are very very few complaints about those issues in stock car. Well, Subaru release their much improved FA engine, and it makes the same power as STI in JDM Legacy GT. I don't see a reason to buy an STI, unless you want to take it to the track.
03-02-14, 07:55 AM
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STI has those issue when people start to tune their car beyond what the stock internal can hold. There are very very few complaints about those issues in stock car. Well, Subaru release their much improved FA engine, and it makes the same power as STI in JDM Legacy GT. I don't see a reason to buy an STI, unless you want to take it to the track.
. I don't know what the R stand for...."Rowing" ? I may go with the STI for possibility of bringing it to the Track, or the Xcross event. It is just the engine reliability that scare me.But still, it truly is mind bogging to have a vehicle that hold it value so well together....just Amazing...Even Lexus doesn't have a car that can hold the value just as well.
The last vehicle from Toyota I remember that actually never lose value = Supra. But, that only happen after they siege the productions
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