2015 Camry, commentary
01-31-14, 01:31 PM
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To add some additional data to this discussion: Here are the top sellers in the mid-sized family sedan looking at annual sales from 2007 - 2013.
It's easy to see why Toyota brass would be concerned. There's more to success than just sales volume.
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Year - Camry - Accord - .Altima - Fusion - Malibu - Sonata. - Seb/200 - Avenger - Optima - Legacy - Mazda6 2007 - 473,108 - 392,231 - 284,762 - 149,552 - 128,312 - 145,568 - 93,130 - 85,282 - 40,901 - 78,428 - 55,575 2008 - 436,617 - 372,789 - 269,668 - 147,569 - 178,253 - 117,357 - 71,063 - 61,963 - 44,904 - 66,876 - 52,590 2009 - 356,824 - 287,492 - 203,568 - 180,671 - 161,568 - 120,028 - 27,460 - 38,922 - 37,527 - 30,974 - 34,866 2010 - 327,804 - 288,530 - 229,268 - 219,219 - 198,770 - 196,623 - 38,585 - 50,923 - 27,382 - 38,725 - 35,662 2011 - 308,510 - 235,625 - 268,981 - 248,067 - 204,808 - 225,961 - 87,033 - 64,023 - 84,590 - 42,401 - 35,711 2012 - 404,886 - 331,872 - 302,934 - 241,263 - 210,951 - 230,605 - 125,476 - 96,889 - 152,399 - 47,127 - 33,756 2013 - 408,484 - 366,678 - 320,723 - 295,280 - 200,594 - 203,648 - 122,480 - 93,842 - 155,893 - 42,291 - 43,638
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Camry Market Share 2007 - 24.53% 2008 - 23.99% 2009 - 24.11% 2010 - 19.92% 2011 - 17.18% 2012 - 18.59% 2013 - 18.13%
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01-31-14, 01:42 PM
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And Toyota is cashing in with their 2013 profits above their record high 2007. It is literally the most profitable year for any manufacturer in history.
With Camry being their 2nd best seller, yes, it is doing good for T.
Of course, they should improve it, it is 3yr old now... Personally I dont know what car would i aspire to buy in competitive segment when it is "oldest". New competition always has better design, interior, feature comforts. I would have never purchased 2012 IS when F30 came out, or 2012 GS when F10 was out or any other car when it is oldest car in segment.
01-31-14, 02:19 PM
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Profit is important, but profit is a byproduct of sales volume and market share. As a businessman I promise you Toyota cares about sales volume and declining market share. If those continue to decline, so will profit.
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01-31-14, 02:40 PM
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02-06-14, 07:55 PM
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Toyota seriously needs to get over slab proportions which pretty much their entire lineup consists of..
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02-06-14, 09:27 PM
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but again, what exactly do you want here?
02-06-14, 09:40 PM
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They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
02-07-14, 01:00 AM
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Yes, you can see some Avalon styling in the front bumper. That would be a good direction to head. As it stands now, the Camry and Avalon look like they are from two different parent companies- with the Avalon taking a solid position of style and character.
02-07-14, 01:04 AM
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The Camry is the least of their problems. The new Avalon & Corolla lack that sense of coherence. It just really seems like Toyota is making too much compromise.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
Both Corolla and Avalon look good.
02-07-14, 04:47 AM
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The Camry is the least of their problems. The new Avalon & Corolla lack that sense of coherence. It just really seems like Toyota is making too much compromise.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
02-07-14, 05:36 AM
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The Camry is the least of their problems. The new Avalon & Corolla lack that sense of coherence. It just really seems like Toyota is making too much compromise.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
They uses to design the best looking cars. Even the previous GEN Camry was good looking. Akio comes along and their entire style has changed for the worse.
If you think the previous generation Camry was good looking? We have different senses of style.
