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Old 03-25-14, 08:06 PM   #46
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Mildly good fuel economy? Name me another car that has 355hp and gets 23 MPG city and 31 MPG highway???
Q50 Hybrid, 360hp, 29/36
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Q50 Hybrid, 360hp, 29/36
According to fueleconomy.gov the Q50S AWD Hybrid which is closer to the CLA 45 AMG specs has ratings of 27 MPG city and 31 MPG highway. Nice try. The performance between the two isn't even comparable. We all know which one comes out on top at the race track between the two.

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I think until pressure on a racetrack, the CLA would probably get better gas mileage than the Q50h

but those numbers on the Q50 are pretty impressive
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Those are paper MPG numbers from Mercedes. Take them with a real grain of salt. There was a recent review of the A180 with its dreadful performance and yet it used 10.1L/100km over 400km of country driving.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/270177/m...s-review-a180/
You can take any fuel ratings with a grain of salt, not just MB. But based on standardized testing where all cars are tested using the same method, those are the ratings.
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You can take any fuel ratings with a grain of salt, not just MB. But based on standardized testing where all cars are tested using the same method, those are the ratings.
No! Here in Australia the IS250 is rated at 9.2L/100km. In the real world it uses around 10-12L/100km

In comparison all the German competitors are listed at 5-7L/100km yet they all use about 10-12L/100km in the real world.

My point is that the Germans numbers are all BS and are way overstated. There even was an article somewhere about how the German brands overstate their MPG numbers.

http://www.transportenvironment.org/...ons-tests-most
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That really hasn't been a problem here, specifically pertaining to just German brands. We've just been seeing turbo models in general from several manufacturers get significantly less real world mpg.
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Default Mercedes CLA 45 AMG Hits the 400PS Mark, Courtesy of Brabus

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For most people, the Mercedes CLA 45 AMG has plenty of power and sporty enough looks. Not for Brabus, though, as the German aftermarket specialist has released a styling kit for the most powerful CLA model.

Brabus’ styling package features subtle upgrades including black alloy wheels with red inserts, matching carbon fiber mirror caps, as well as rear decklid and roof spoilers. Red trim matching the exterior accents are visible on the inside.

For those unhappy with the CLA 45 AMG’s 355 horsepower (360PS), Brabus offers the PowerXtra B45 software upgrade for the 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine that increases output to 394 hp (400PS). Torque is also boosted from 450 Nm (332 lb-ft) to 500 Nm (369 lb-ft).

With its newly found power, the CLA sprints from 0 to 60 mph (96 km/h) in 4.2 seconds – 0.2 seconds faster than the standard Mercedes CLA 45 AMG.

The performance upgrade is also available for the Mercedes A 45 AMG. The Brabus PowerXtra CGI B45 consists of an additional control unit which is adapted to the engine management. It gets connected to the standard engine harness by the delivered plug & play wiring harness.
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Default Spied: Mercedes-Benz CLA 45 AMG Gets Roomier with Shooting Brake Version

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Perhaps one of the untold reasons why automakers call sporty-styled saloons with slanted rooflines "4-door coupes" is to hint at the restricted coupe-like headroom for rear passengers and to some extent, the luggage area. Mercedes plans to, if not correct; at least improve these shortcomings on the CLA with the introduction of a Shooting Brake model, which is Benz-talk for a stylish estate.

We already knew about the regular editions of the upcoming CLA Shooting Brake, and now, we have photographic evidence that there will be a range topping CLA 45 AMG model as well.

The CLA Shooting Brake shares a similar styling theme to the larger CLS Shooting Brake, with the AMG model adding a more aggressive appearance through a dedicated body kit with more chiseled bumpers, a rear diffuser flanked by quad pipes, bigger wheels, side skirts, plus different mirrors and grille.

You'll get the same running gear as the CLA 45 AMG saloon, which means a turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four delivering 355hp (360PS) and 332lb ft (450Nm) of torque paired to a standard a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and all-wheel drive.

An introduction date has not yet been set, but we should see the CLA Shooting Brake series pop out in the open, if not by the end of this year, by early 2015.
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Company offers styling and performance upgrades

RevoZport has introduced a new tuning program for the Mercedes CLA.

On the styling front, the car can be equipped with a carbon fiber front splitter, carbon fiber canards and a ventilated hood which is also constructed from carbon fiber. Customers can also order aerodynamic side skirts and a sporty rear diffuser. RevoZport also offers three different rear spoilers including a "ducklip trunk spoiler," a "GT spoiler" and a "carbon trunk with [an] integrated hydraulic spoiler."

Should that fail to impress, owners can order aluminum pedals, an optimized ECU and titanium exhaust system.
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No! Here in Australia the IS250 is rated at 9.2L/100km. In the real world it uses around 10-12L/100km

In comparison all the German competitors are listed at 5-7L/100km yet they all use about 10-12L/100km in the real world.

My point is that the Germans numbers are all BS and are way overstated. There even was an article somewhere about how the German brands overstate their MPG numbers.

http://www.transportenvironment.org/...ons-tests-most
From the testing by Consumer Reports here in the U.S., the German brands were one of the few to actually make good on fuel mileage claims with their turbocharged engines, versus EPA test standards. EPA methodology has been revised within the past 5 or 10 years so it at least somewhat up to date. Includes use of A/C pretty much all the time, and higher speeds on the highway up to 75 or 80 mph I think, which is the norm for actual driving conditions.

I can get as good (or as bad) MPG in my 335i as I want, but usually bad.
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According to fueleconomy.gov the Q50S AWD Hybrid which is closer to the CLA 45 AMG specs has ratings of 27 MPG city and 31 MPG highway. Nice try. The performance between the two isn't even comparable. We all know which one comes out on top at the race track between the two.
Not nice try, it answered your question and you just proved my point again.

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Name me another car that has 355hp and gets 23 MPG city and 31 MPG highway???
Q50S AWD Hybrid gets 360hp, 27 city and 31 highway. Those number match or exceed your 355hp, 23 city, 31 highway in a much larger car.

The CLA45 AMG is lighter and pint sized compared to the much larger Q50S AWD Hybrid, so no duh the CLA will scold a Q50 Hybrid on a track. Don't try to justify your track answer though when the original question beckoned fuel economy and nothing do do with track performance. Good luck doing anything with that CLA though with its miniscule everything and poorer quality interior
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Not nice try, it answered your question and you just proved my point again.
And my point is the Q50S AWD Hybrid performs like crap despite getting similar hp and fuel economies.

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Q50S AWD Hybrid gets 360hp, 27 city and 31 highway. Those number match or exceed your 355hp, 23 city, 31 highway in a much larger car.
The only advantage in fuel economy for the Q50 is in the city where it relies on the electric motors more than the gasoline engine in stop and go traffic, hence 27 MPG city for the Q50 vs. 23 MPG city for the CLA. But who the heck races from traffic light to traffic light??? And the Q50 isn't that much bigger than the CLA. We're not talking about 7 series vs. Mini here.

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The CLA45 AMG is lighter and pint sized compared to the much larger Q50S AWD Hybrid, so no duh the CLA will scold a Q50 Hybrid on a track. Don't try to justify your track answer though when the original question beckoned fuel economy and nothing do do with track performance. Good luck doing anything with that CLA though with its miniscule everything and poorer quality interior
You failed to understand my original point. Let me spell it out for you: what car gets similar hp and fuel economies as the CLA 45 AMG and at the same time gets similar or better performance than the CLA 45 AMG? And by the way, there are plenty of "large" cars like the RS7 that can outperform much smaller performance cars. FYI, the Q50's interior is nothing to write home about.
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And my point is the Q50S AWD Hybrid performs like crap despite getting similar hp and fuel economies.

The only advantage in fuel economy for the Q50 is in the city where it relies on the electric motors more than the gasoline engine in stop and go traffic, hence 27 MPG city for the Q50 vs. 23 MPG city for the CLA. But who the heck races from traffic light to traffic light??? And the Q50 isn't that much bigger than the CLA. We're not talking about 7 series vs. Mini here.

You failed to understand my original point. Let me spell it out for you.: what car gets similar hp and fuel economies as the CLA 45 AMG and at the same time gets similar or better performance than the CLA 45 AMG? And by the way, there are plenty of "large" cars like the RS7 that can outperform much smaller performance cars. FYI, the Q50's interior is nothing to write home about.
Touched a nerve have I? Your original point was in answer to my statement:
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Mildly good fuel economy? Name me another car that has 355hp and gets 23 MPG city and 31 MPG highway???
. Hence I listed the Q50 Hybrid and it's hp rating and mileage rating. You can spin your wheels all you want F1 () and rephrase it saying "but I meant blah blah performance yada yada", remember that assumptions are dangerous. But lets not get more off topic than we already have, If you feel the need to "spell it out more" feel free to PM me. Otherwise I have a Sharks game to finish and more Car Chat threads to peruse
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Touched a nerve have I? Your original point was in answer to my statement: in which you said: . Hence I listed the Q50 Hybrid and it's hp rating and mileage rating. You can spin your wheels all you want F1 () and rephrase it saying "but I meant blah blah performance yada yada", remember that assumptions are dangerous. But lets not get more off topic than we already have, If you feel the need to "spell it out more" feel free to PM me. Otherwise I have a Sharks game to finish and more Car Chat threads to peruse
You haven't touched a nerve. Just pointing out how idiotic it was to call a performance car like the CLA 45 AMG with 355 hp that gets 23 MPG city and 31 MPG highway getting "mildly good fuel economy" when no other cars come close to it.
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