Which car would you choose?
#32
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To the OP : when you mention performance, it seems that you're looking more at straight-line accleration.
In that case, one of the turbo/supercharged German cars would be for you.
If you're looking for tight handling and better steering feel, you should consider the IS350 F-Sport or GS350 F-Sport. Both Car and Driver and Road and Track ranked the IS350 F-Sport as NUMBER ONE in the compact executive sedan segment largely due to its combination of great handling,engaging steering and luxury.
In that case, one of the turbo/supercharged German cars would be for you.
If you're looking for tight handling and better steering feel, you should consider the IS350 F-Sport or GS350 F-Sport. Both Car and Driver and Road and Track ranked the IS350 F-Sport as NUMBER ONE in the compact executive sedan segment largely due to its combination of great handling,engaging steering and luxury.
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CLA45 looks and sounds like a pile of crap. Lousy interior, nasty exhaust, nav looks like someone glued a Garmin on the dash, 4 banger, all for the bargain price of 60-65k. Buy a C63 instead if you are interested in a performance Benz or better yet wait for the 2015 C class redesign
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Really? Is BMW that worthless to buy as a car to drive? Or is it just a car that is fun to drive but need works done on the way with it? Damn nice! congrats! I wonder how did he made up his mind to get a used fast car? is it CPO? or is it from a local car seller? I don't really wanna concern about those type of used car because who know how they been abused? Is it worth the money? or it depends on the condition? And second question what is so turned down on the performance by making the 335i electrical steering? Thanks!!
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They're still awesome handling cars, but the whole thing with BMWs was the intimate road feel, and the outstanding chassis backing it all up. There's a confidence that you get when driving now older BMWs that just encourages you to push and enjoy the car, because they communicated what exactly they were doing at all times so well. All of that is gone now, with the completely numb electric steering. You can't feel a damned thing, which is sad. They've also softened up the brakes a lot because Americans complain too much about brake dust, so the solid braking feel is gone too, unless you opt for an M-Sport model. They're still great cars, just different animals now. If I was buying another new German car, I'd rather try an Audi or Benz on for size than another BMW.
The steering is not as perfect as the E-generation cars but if optioned the right way the still deliver that ultimate driving experience.
Personally i couldnt be more satisfied with my 2013 F10 535i Msport - its by far the best car I owned.
Again i dont like the current BMW Direction of softening the dynamics but equipped the right way they are still Great. Please test drive the 4series - i think u will like it.
Also while msrp prices are high - if u lease the price is not bad due to high residuals.
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CLA45 looks and sounds like a pile of crap. Lousy interior, nasty exhaust, nav looks like someone glued a Garmin on the dash, 4 banger, all for the bargain price of 60-65k. Buy a C63 instead if you are interested in a performance Benz or better yet wait for the 2015 C class redesign
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No, I disagree that it is a non-starter. It's true that future reliabiity can't always be predicited (as we saw with the 2006 Camry), but past C-class models had more than their share of reliability issues.
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Care to expand? I know of the pre- facelift C300 4-matic models having issues but haven't heard anything else out of the W204 platform lineup worth noting.
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jason, you keep mentioning rear seat room, but the reality is most anything with decent rear seat room isn't going to be that much fun unless it's big bucks (like a panamera ).
335, c350, s4, is, none of those has a lot of rear seat room (c350 prob best?).
gs350 would be fine, but now it's a big car, so not as much fun (although good handling anyway).
i think the cla45 is one butt ugly car, so i'd pass on that one.
335, c350, s4, is, none of those has a lot of rear seat room (c350 prob best?).
gs350 would be fine, but now it's a big car, so not as much fun (although good handling anyway).
i think the cla45 is one butt ugly car, so i'd pass on that one.
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I think u really need to drive the new Bimmers that have the PASSIVE Msport suspensions with RWD.
The steering is not as perfect as the E-generation cars but if optioned the right way the still deliver that ultimate driving experience.
Personally i couldnt be more satisfied with my 2013 F10 535i Msport - its by far the best car I owned.
Again i dont like the current BMW Direction of softening the dynamics but equipped the right way they are still Great. Please test drive the 4series - i think u will like it.
Also while msrp prices are high - if u lease the price is not bad due to high residuals.
The steering is not as perfect as the E-generation cars but if optioned the right way the still deliver that ultimate driving experience.
Personally i couldnt be more satisfied with my 2013 F10 535i Msport - its by far the best car I owned.
Again i dont like the current BMW Direction of softening the dynamics but equipped the right way they are still Great. Please test drive the 4series - i think u will like it.
Also while msrp prices are high - if u lease the price is not bad due to high residuals.
Great steering, great brakes, great handling, and an Inilne-6 used to be STANDARD on every BMW model. Now you have to option up to super pricey models just to get a car that still doesn't drive as well as older models, and classic phenomenally good BMW steering cannot be had at any price.
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jason, you keep mentioning rear seat room, but the reality is most anything with decent rear seat room isn't going to be that much fun unless it's big bucks (like a panamera ).
335, c350, s4, is, none of those has a lot of rear seat room (c350 prob best?).
gs350 would be fine, but now it's a big car, so not as much fun (although good handling anyway).
i think the cla45 is one butt ugly car, so i'd pass on that one.
335, c350, s4, is, none of those has a lot of rear seat room (c350 prob best?).
gs350 would be fine, but now it's a big car, so not as much fun (although good handling anyway).
i think the cla45 is one butt ugly car, so i'd pass on that one.