View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
Supra gets my vote!
129
84.31%
I don't know, but its time for a new name.
24
15.69%
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Toyota Supra / FT-1
#668
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
looks like batman's car.
#669
Toyota FT-1 Party - It's a party, an FT-1 party!
Seeing the concept in person at a private party
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...ta_ft_1_party/
There isn't any groundbreaking news about Toyota's FT-1 Coupe yet... But we finally had the chance to see the concept in person at a private party held during the New York International Auto Show. Toyota closed off a section of The Standard Hotel and put the FT-1 on display. The party had an old school feel with retro arcade games, while famed rapper, Biz Markie, was on the 1s and 2s. There's still no word what motor or what plans are next for the possible Supra successor, but seeing this Formula One-inspired concept with our own eyes has us still dreaming about the possibilities today.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...ta_ft_1_party/
#671
SF moderate Troux has posted what a 10% reduction to FT-1 would be like.
Pretty close to the old MKIV and C7 Corvette.
MKIV Supra
Wheelbase: 100.4 in.
Length: 177.7 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
Height: 50.2 in.
C7 Corvette
Wheelbase: 106.7 in
Length: 176.9 in
Width: 73.9 in
Height: 48.6 in
If you insist on trying to measure, then you should realize that cutting down all 3 dimensions by 10% doesn't make the car 10% smaller.
Example:
10"x10"x10" cube = 1000 in^3 cube
9"x9"x9" cube = 729 in^3 cube
That's a reduction of 27%
Pretty much impossible to do a fully accurate volume reduction, but if we treat the LWH dimensions as those of a rectangular prism, then your factor for each dimension is the cubic root of the factor for the volume. If your new car is 90% the size of the old car, then each dimension is ~96.5% of the old, as (.965)^3 = .90.
We get:
FT-1 (10% Less)
Wheelbase: 104.2 in
Length: 177.1 in
Width: 74.9 in
Height: 46.5 in
Example:
10"x10"x10" cube = 1000 in^3 cube
9"x9"x9" cube = 729 in^3 cube
That's a reduction of 27%
Pretty much impossible to do a fully accurate volume reduction, but if we treat the LWH dimensions as those of a rectangular prism, then your factor for each dimension is the cubic root of the factor for the volume. If your new car is 90% the size of the old car, then each dimension is ~96.5% of the old, as (.965)^3 = .90.
We get:
FT-1 (10% Less)
Wheelbase: 104.2 in
Length: 177.1 in
Width: 74.9 in
Height: 46.5 in
MKIV Supra
Wheelbase: 100.4 in.
Length: 177.7 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
Height: 50.2 in.
C7 Corvette
Wheelbase: 106.7 in
Length: 176.9 in
Width: 73.9 in
Height: 48.6 in
#672
#673
Toyota redresses FT-1 concept
It’s the second coming of the Toyota FT-1.
Tonight at 8 p.m. ET, Toyota will pull the cover off of a second concept version of the FT-1 super sports car in Monterey, Calif.
Both versions of the FT-1 will be shown, squeezed between classic supercars and big business jets. Showing off both the first and second FT-1s in California is a good way to gauge popular reaction to the car among people who might buy it -- and to use that popular reaction to present a case to Tokyo to build the car.
Will it be built? No one is saying yet, but consider this: in the 41 years that Toyota's Calty design center has operated in southern California, Toyota’s top management has only ever asked for a second stamping of a concept car twice. The first request was the Lexus LF LC. The new FT-1 concept marks the second time it has happened.
The only thing different with this concept is the color. Yes. That's it. Inside and out, the colors are new.
“It can really change your perception of it, the value of it, with just a simple thing like painting it a different color,” said Kevin Hunter, president of Calty, where both FT-1s were made. “I’m still fascinated by that. [Changing a car’s color to get a new response] is nothing new but it’s pretty interesting in the design world how you can change the perception of something just by giving it a different color.”
The exterior grayish-looking blend is called “graphite,” and the interior colors are redone in what Toyota designers are calling “saddle.”
“We had a limited time to figure out what’s the easiest way to accomplish that change without doing too much and ruining the original concept,” said Sellene Lee, creative designer at Calty. “So we had to go through quickly what we could do. Luckily we found this saddle and we thought, that’s the best way, to simply change the color.”
To create a more refined, GT-like experience, Toyota trimmed the second FT-1 concept in saddle leather.
While the original Detroit show car was overtly sporty, appealing to the supercar lust of those who saw it, by simply changing the interior from black with red accents to the second car’s goldish-yellow “saddle” shades, the car suddenly goes from pure sports car to more sporting GT. It goes from the original FT-1’s $60,000 ballpark price tag to, perhaps, something higher.
“Maybe there’s a customer who wants more premiumness out of a supercar, not the rawness of the first car,” said Lee.
If Toyota can charge more than $60,000 for the car, profits, and therefore production, possibilities might increase. Who knows?
The leather samples we saw really did bring the FT-1 up a class or two. The inside looked downright Bently-esque, maybe.
In the original concept, the interior was supposed to represent a “superhero’s suit,” said Lee.
“We don’t create show cars just to create needless studies. There’s usually a reason,” said Hunter.
If it does go to production, expect some of the proportions to change: the width, the wider haunches in particular, and maybe the bulbousness of that probiscous snout. But if a production car were to be made, it would still be recognizable as an FT-1.
“We create these as theater,” said Hunter. “We want it to be believable within a certain understanding so that when somebody looks at this car they can imagine it on the road. We don’t want to create space ships that look like science fiction. We try to create a balance with just the right amount of stuff to get everybody excited but it pushes the envelope that on a show car stage it looks dramatic. The width of this car and some of the proportions are certainly extreme. In an auto show environment, things tend to shrink down so we try to go a little bigger than reality. As far as production capability, we don’t worry about it [on a show car] because we’re making a concept car. There are new exciting proportions coming that the public hasn’t seen and this is part of it.”
Tonight at 8 p.m. ET, Toyota will pull the cover off of a second concept version of the FT-1 super sports car in Monterey, Calif.
Both versions of the FT-1 will be shown, squeezed between classic supercars and big business jets. Showing off both the first and second FT-1s in California is a good way to gauge popular reaction to the car among people who might buy it -- and to use that popular reaction to present a case to Tokyo to build the car.
Will it be built? No one is saying yet, but consider this: in the 41 years that Toyota's Calty design center has operated in southern California, Toyota’s top management has only ever asked for a second stamping of a concept car twice. The first request was the Lexus LF LC. The new FT-1 concept marks the second time it has happened.
The only thing different with this concept is the color. Yes. That's it. Inside and out, the colors are new.
“It can really change your perception of it, the value of it, with just a simple thing like painting it a different color,” said Kevin Hunter, president of Calty, where both FT-1s were made. “I’m still fascinated by that. [Changing a car’s color to get a new response] is nothing new but it’s pretty interesting in the design world how you can change the perception of something just by giving it a different color.”
The exterior grayish-looking blend is called “graphite,” and the interior colors are redone in what Toyota designers are calling “saddle.”
“We had a limited time to figure out what’s the easiest way to accomplish that change without doing too much and ruining the original concept,” said Sellene Lee, creative designer at Calty. “So we had to go through quickly what we could do. Luckily we found this saddle and we thought, that’s the best way, to simply change the color.”
To create a more refined, GT-like experience, Toyota trimmed the second FT-1 concept in saddle leather.
While the original Detroit show car was overtly sporty, appealing to the supercar lust of those who saw it, by simply changing the interior from black with red accents to the second car’s goldish-yellow “saddle” shades, the car suddenly goes from pure sports car to more sporting GT. It goes from the original FT-1’s $60,000 ballpark price tag to, perhaps, something higher.
“Maybe there’s a customer who wants more premiumness out of a supercar, not the rawness of the first car,” said Lee.
If Toyota can charge more than $60,000 for the car, profits, and therefore production, possibilities might increase. Who knows?
The leather samples we saw really did bring the FT-1 up a class or two. The inside looked downright Bently-esque, maybe.
In the original concept, the interior was supposed to represent a “superhero’s suit,” said Lee.
“We don’t create show cars just to create needless studies. There’s usually a reason,” said Hunter.
If it does go to production, expect some of the proportions to change: the width, the wider haunches in particular, and maybe the bulbousness of that probiscous snout. But if a production car were to be made, it would still be recognizable as an FT-1.
“We create these as theater,” said Hunter. “We want it to be believable within a certain understanding so that when somebody looks at this car they can imagine it on the road. We don’t want to create space ships that look like science fiction. We try to create a balance with just the right amount of stuff to get everybody excited but it pushes the envelope that on a show car stage it looks dramatic. The width of this car and some of the proportions are certainly extreme. In an auto show environment, things tend to shrink down so we try to go a little bigger than reality. As far as production capability, we don’t worry about it [on a show car] because we’re making a concept car. There are new exciting proportions coming that the public hasn’t seen and this is part of it.”
http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...s-ft-1-concept
Last edited by Vh_Supra26; 08-13-14 at 03:45 PM.