View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
Supra gets my vote!
129
84.31%
I don't know, but its time for a new name.
24
15.69%
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Toyota Supra / FT-1
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BMW I6 is no match to the so old 2JZ.
If true I hope Toyota will price the car so low that nobody would be willing to spend more on BMW badge when they can get BMW tech for Toyota price.
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I wouldn't mind a Supra with a Toyota in house V6 TT or the V8 2UR-GSE if a new inline 6 cannot be produced due to costs. Don't really need BMW guru's saying the next Supra is what it is because it has a BMW engine in it.
#769
Finally, I think it is ok for Toyota to use BMW S55 engine, if they only uses the crankcase (see picture) and all the rest (forged pistons, forged crankshaft, forged piston rods, cylinder head, turbo, exhaust manifold and exhaust, oil sump, etc.) are all designed by Toyota, and the engine has dry sump and sits lower in the chassis, revs higher and is more responsive than the BMW engine, makes more power and is more reliable and is connected to a transaxle gearbox.
If Toyota wants to use a BMW engine they have to rebuild it so that it should be better than any BMW I6 ever, and should ridicule BMW's I6.
#770
Finally, I think it is ok for Toyota to use BMW S55 engine, if they only uses the crankcase (see picture) and all the rest (forged pistons, forged crankshaft, forged piston rods, cylinder head, turbo, exhaust manifold and exhaust, oil sump, etc.) are all designed by Toyota, and the engine has dry sump and sits lower in the chassis, revs higher and is more responsive than the BMW engine, makes more power and is more reliable and is connected to a transaxle gearbox.
If Toyota wants to use a BMW engine they have to rebuild it so that it should be better than any BMW I6 ever, and should ridicule BMW's I6.
If Toyota wants to use a BMW engine they have to rebuild it so that it should be better than any BMW I6 ever, and should ridicule BMW's I6.
#771
The platform yes, but what about the engine? And know how "cheap" and "cost-cutting" BMW engineering is, I'm afraid the CF chassis will not be able to accommodate transaxle transmission and mid-front engine placement, both - especially transaxle gearbox - the most important features of front engine sports cars.
#773
That's why the production version must not be too watered down or it will be a total letdown. Just make it a GTR fighter and call it a day. Will put everyone on notice...including Lexus. Wishful thinking...
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Agree. Because they have conflict of interest, that's why they can't make a Toyota better than a Lexus. They should ditch that thinking. Like Engineers over at GM, if Camaro Z28 beats C6 Corvette ZR1, it's Corvette's problem, not GM's.
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its also worth noting that MotorTrend has said Toyota is aiming for the GT6 specs. i think it was like 485hp and 3,000 lbs?
#778
But here are some of the reasons I have heard people saying:
1. Split development cost of the new Supra and new "Z5".
2. Retain the Supra's I6 by using BMW's motor.
3. Some believe Toyota wants carbon fiber on this car and it would be cheaper to partner up with BMW to achieve this.
At the the 2:40 mark Kevin Hunter does mention 2000GT, Supra, and straight six.
Edit: I could have swore I recall KH saying something like this in one of the interviews: "Toyota no longer makes a straight six, the only automaker that still does is BMW". Than again, I wouldn't be surprise if Toyota asked them to edited that part out later.
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I personally agree that Supra mk4 was a better looking car, but aesthetics is a subjective topic and SC interior was a mile better in term of quality.
I would love that spec for 60k, but I don't think so.