Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > General Forums > Car Chat
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Quick Spin: 2015 Honda Civic Type R prototype

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-02-13, 06:39 PM   #1
Hoovey2411
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (16)
 
Hoovey2411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 30,192
Default Quick Spin: 2015 Honda Civic Type R prototype

2015 Honda Civic Type R prototype


"Turbochargers aren't just for downsizing"

Click the image to open in full size.

Gallery:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-...photo-1597242/

With a name like Earth Dreams, you'd be forgiven for assuming that Honda's new family of turbocharged VTEC engines is more about environmental credentials than performance. And to a large degree they are – particularly in 1.0- and 1.5-liter forms. But the 2.0 is another beast altogether.

Thanks to a high-output turbocharger, direct injection, a high-performance cooling system and, of course, variable valve timing, Honda's new 2.0-liter four produces upwards of 280 horsepower while still complying with upcoming Euro 6 emissions standards. Although actual output has yet to be confirmed, that preliminary figure already compares favorably with the Ford Focus ST (252 hp) and Mazdaspeed3 (274 hp) and rests comfortably in between the Volkswagen GTI (217 hp) and Golf R (296 hp).

For demonstration and testing purposes, Honda shoehorned the smaller 1.5-liter turbo four and 1.0-liter turbo three-cylinder engines into an Acura ILX and another Civic hatchback, but the home it gave the 2.0 betrays more than an engine swap. What you see here is essentially the next Civic Type R, following a long line of Honda hot hatches. With this latest model, the Japanese automaker is targeting the front-drive lap record at the Nürburgring that belongs to the Renaultsport Megane Trophy and before that, to the lightweight Megane R26.R. A tall order, to be sure, so we headed to Honda's R&D center in Tochigi, Japan, to take it out for a ride.

Driving Notes:
  • Walking around this Type R prototype, you can immediately tell this is no ordinary Civic – even with the concealing matte black treatment and taped-up elements. It's got prominent beefed-up wheel arches, a big rear wing and a rear diffusor from which quadruple exhaust tips protrude – something you don't see on any of the aforementioned rivals short of the Golf R. Lightweight alloys do little to hide the cross-drilled brake discs with bright-red Brembo calipers. Step inside and you'll find bucket seats deeply bolstered and clad in Alcantara, with a thick-rimmed steering wheel right in your chest.
  • Pulling out of the paddock and onto the access lane to the banked track, the Type R responds instantly to a floored accelerator. Although Honda has made no mention so far, the absence of any discernible lag makes us wonder if it hasn't fitted a variable-geometry turbocharger or if the Tochigi engineers had managed to tune the turbo and VTEC to work in concert to eliminate the lag.
  • Nor was there much torque steer evident as we sped down the narrow lane, prompting similar questions over whether Honda is using a differential – either mechanical or electronic – to keep the beast on the straight and narrow. These and other questions will, of course, be answered with time, which isn't something the Type R seems to take a lot of to reach a rather brisk pace.
  • Racing onto the banked track, our car was limited to 200 kilometers per hour (124 miles per hour), a speed to which it pulled with authority. The limiter cut in when there was still plenty of accelerator travel to go and a sixth gear we never had a chance to grab. We couldn't help but wonder what she'd do derestricted, but for this early drive, we were forbidden from using the most steeply banked lane at the top of the track anyway. Just the same, the car tracked smooth and solid through the sweeping turns, and whatever that lesser car was that pulled out onto the inside lane of the track as we passed the pit exit grew in our windshield and shrank in the rearview mirror like it was stationary.
  • Honda has clearly left few greasy bits unchanged in the Type R from the standard five-door Civic hatch on which it's based. Everything about it feels tight: the weighted steering, the firm pedal feedback and the taut suspension that only stiffened at the touch of the red Type R button next to the steering wheel.
  • Unfortunately, our two laps were up in tellingly short time, but we were left impressed by a solid hot hatch in the making that just might stand a chance of knocking Renault off its perch at the top of the Nordschleife leaderboards. We look forward to seeing it try, but more than that, we're hoping that Honda finally gifts North American consumers with this most forbidden bit of fruit.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/02/2...e-r-prototype/
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
__________________
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic95774_1.gif
|Version 3.5 |TLN #918|
GIANTS|NINERS|SHARKS|WARRIORS
Hoovey2411 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-13, 02:24 AM   #2
Blackraven
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Makati, Philippines
Posts: 3,303
Default

This could be the car from Honda that would send Renault engineers back to the drawing board.......

This is definitely exciting indeed
Blackraven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-13, 05:18 AM   #3
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,293
Default

i am kind of interested more in their impressions of 1.0l and 1.5l, as that will possibly go into far more cars.
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-14, 06:57 PM   #4
Hoovey2411
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (16)
 
Hoovey2411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 30,192
Default Honda Civic Type R caught naked and frisky

Click the image to open in full size.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/honda...photo-2615773/
__________________
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic95774_1.gif
|Version 3.5 |TLN #918|
GIANTS|NINERS|SHARKS|WARRIORS
Hoovey2411 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-14, 04:56 AM   #5
yowps3
Lexus Test Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
yowps3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NSW
Posts: 971
Default

That looks awesome. Like a Japanese sports bike & hatch combined
__________________
2011 IS350 *White PEarl*
yowps3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-14, 07:52 AM   #6
bagwell
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: back in Denver
Posts: 7,669
Default

Quote:
we're hoping that Honda finally gifts North American consumers with this most forbidden bit of fruit.
would be a great competitor for the WRX/STI
__________________
2013 Subaru WRX Limited, Navigation, HID, Leather, Sunroof, LED everything, Red vinyl tails
2010 Audi A5 2.0T Quattro, Sport Pkg w/19 inch, B&O, Bi-Xenon
bagwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-14, 10:08 AM   #7
Motor
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CA™
Posts: 2,026
Default

Quote:
The Honda Civic #TypeR Concept film celebrates the 'other side' of Honda.

Last edited by Motor; 06-11-14 at 11:23 AM..
Motor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 12:16 PM   #8
mecheng10
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: ohio
Posts: 471
Default

this car needs to come to the states. it would be one huge hit among the new generation of car buyers (aka the people graduating college and all that)
it pisses me off that im doing all the tooling for it and doing all the work to manufacture it, and will never be able to own/drive one!
__________________
'00 Honda Prelude- stock, daily driver
'93 sc300- parts list-ls400 bbk, boostlogic mani, biggu's exhaust, AEM V2, s360

Besides lag is just a JZ owners version of FOREPLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mecheng10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-14, 04:24 PM   #9
KahnBB6
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (3)
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: California
Posts: 1,893
Default

This is a great concept... but it means nothing if it doesn't represent the next GLOBALLY SOLD Civic Type R, which includes a USA model.

mecheng10, I see that you have a 2000 Prelude. For ten years I owned a same-year Type SH previous to my SC300 and it was a great daily car (with no practical point to modifying the very limiting but fun H22 engine) but I saw no reason to stay with Honda cars. They have dropped the ball so many times and are so late to factory turbocharging it's not even a joke any longer.

I'd really like to see them do something amazing again starting with this car and a turbocharged CR-Z but I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to Honda and Acura.
__________________
1993 SC300 5-speed NA | Built R154 | Gixxer_Drew Susp. 600/325 | TT: brakes FR, rims, rear sway, seats | Koyo rad | 4.272 TT Torsen LSD
------------------------
KahnBB6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-14, 11:13 AM   #10
Motor
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CA™
Posts: 2,026
Default

Motor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-14, 11:13 AM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2015 Civic Type R will make 'at least' 276 hp from 2.0L turbo Hoovey2411 Car Chat 74 10-30-14 09:43 AM
Honda S2000 to be reborn Vh_Supra26 Car Chat 11 05-12-14 09:41 AM
Quick Spin: Honda MC-β prototype Hoovey2411 Car Chat 4 01-04-14 07:48 PM
Honda Civic Type R to get 2.0L turbo with up to 300 horsepower Hoovey2411 Car Chat 19 11-15-12 10:35 PM
New Honda Civic Type-R approved Hoovey2411 Car Chat 18 07-21-12 10:39 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:15 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info