spwolf

lol, 2 oil line failures for engine that has sold in millions?

are you kidding me.

TRDFantasy

Spot on. The block may be an iron block, but everything else around the engine and connected to it is crap.

yowps3

Thankyou! And yeah at least you understand my point of view!

SteVTEC

omfg dude!!!!

This was a huge issue. You'd have to be completely BLIND hanging out on a Toyota/Lexus forum to have not heard about it. Tons of them failed. Lots of black dots in "Engine Major" in Consumer Reports reliability data also due to engine failures when the hose went. This was a major black eye for Toyota a few years ago.

SteVTEC

lol ouch... But what about the actual turbo-related engine hardware? How has that held up? What year and mileage?

spwolf

as I said, GR series sold millions, define "tons". Was it bigger than BMW's HPFP failures?

It was definetly not a "major black eye".

You are probably one of the ten people in the world that thinks GR is a bad engine.

It is probably the best engine Toyota has built when it comes to reliability.

natnut

This.

SteVTEC is living in his own little world where the GR series of engines is as problematic as the BMW N55 series of engines.

Fact : BMW N55 problems was real and catastrophic requiring BMW to make major modifications to the engine

Wishful Thinking : SteVTEC hoping a few isolated problems in the Toyota GR after nearly a decade of sales and in millions of cars on the road can be blown all out of proportion just so that BMW won't feel lonely sitting on that N55 mess and in his mind allowing BMW some measure of equality in the engine reliability stakes.

SteVTEC

FACT: The oil hose recall affected tons of vehicles.
FACT: the engines GRENADE themselves when the oil hose blows
FACT: The problems WERE widespread
FACT: That's backed up by CR data which showed black dots for "engine major" on numerous 2GR powered Toyota vehicles for a number of years.
FACT: You're as blind as they come and are fundamentally incapable of ever admitting to any sort of fault or flaw in any Toyota ever.

You speak for yourself in your own delusional little world and not for anybody else. Never said that. I think it's a decent engine, but there are PLENTY of decent V-6 engines out there including ones that I believe are a lot better.

Then why are they blowing VVT-i OIL HOSES and to this day they continue to blow WATER PUMPS at an alarming rate.

I just checked CR data. Lots of water pump failures.

There's no sense in having any sort of further discussion with you here.

SteVTEC

The fact that you agree with him, "THE" most clueless member of this forum, tells me that you're just as clueless by association.

LOL!

First off, the HPFP issues were not "catastrophic". The fuel pump fails, the car goes into limp mode, and you can either baby it to a dealership or have it towed. The fuel pump is the only thing that fails. It's replaced and that's that.

When the 2GR oil hose goes it takes the entire engine with it, in addition to making a giant ole mess of your engine bay. THAT'S CATASTROPHIC!

And it wasn't even the N55. It was the N54.

Right, so a BMW losing a fuel pump with no other damage is catastrophic, but a blown oil hose on a Toyota that takes the WHOLE ENGINE with it isn't.

asdf....tilt.... lol

FACT: the problems were not isolated
FACT: CR data backs that up
FACT: water pumps continue to fail at a "widespread rate"

If spwolf thinks the 2GR is the most reliable engine ever made then I don't know what to say. CATASTROPHIC oil hose failures and water pump failures. Toyota must have made some real ****ty engines then. Old school Toyota engines just went and never had BS problems like these. I'm talking S-series 4-cylinders. My buddy had head bolt problems on his AZ-powered Solara, which is also not exactly an "isolated" issue. The 1MZ we have in our Highlander is solid as a rock and never had BS problems like these either. Let's not forget about sludge issues either, but whatever. Keep believing whatever you want to though. Oh yeah everything Toyota builds is always perfect and never has any issues ever..... sure.

Peace out.

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spwolf

down to personal insults? Yay.

You are not worth responding to anymore dude, live long and prosper

iggyhop9

Back to the topic at hand, this Toyota/Lexus 2.0 turbo will come in both FWD and RWD guise, as evidenced by the already well known trademarks NX200t and GS 200t/RC 200t. I assume an IS200t will arrive for 2016, as well as a CT200t. Purely speculative on my part. Helps balance out the cost of those new engines to use them in as many applications as possible.

My question is, following the Toyota pattern, is the FWD version of the mill going to lack DI/D4S like the Camry, RX, and ES do when compared to their RWD brethen; Lexus IS and GS?

Meaning maybe we see a 210/220hp mill for the FWD models and a 240/250 hp mill for the RWD models? Thoughts?

McMuffin

It's the 22nd. Where's the new engine reveal?

TRDFantasy

We don't really know at this point. The Lexus 2.0T could very well be a Lexus-only engine in North America or worldwide. Toyota models may get their different turbo engines. Or, Toyota models might get variants of the 2.0T Lexus engine.

We'll have to see what happens.

toy4two

2002, 110k miles currently....lets start: turbo bearing went out at 90k, pretty typical from all brands IMHO, so new turbo went in. Wastegate actuator was tired at 90k too. Lets see what else, new N75 boost controller solinoid, new maf, new coils, two sets of plugs, new downpipe (stock crack at flex pipe due to heat), new oil lines (they clog up because the oil drips back in, common failure point, leads to bearing wear in turbo which is amplified if synthetic oil wasn't used by the previous owner every single time, doubtful in today's quickie lube oil changes). Every single hose clamp, the entire PCV system all cracked due to turbo heat, and most of the vacuum hoses due again to the elevated turbo heat of the engine bay. The only thing I haven't had fail is the intercoolers. There are a whole host of other problems but thats just Audi/VW of the era (cluster failure, flakey switches). Oh almost forgot the $18 a piece turbo exhaust manifold bolts X3 with the turbo manifold gasket... god the more I think of it, pretty much everything has failed...German auto parts aren't cheap either... and finding a competent mechanic is hit or miss... and the good ones who know Audi's....impossible

I basically have owned the car from 78k - 110k and have an inch thick stack of reciepts of parts that have failed. I'm currently trying to dump the car....beautiful car, terrible reliability.