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Old 11-14-13, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Can you share where you found the specs (wheelbase, etc) of this 2014 Harrier?
Of course, as every new car, it has its site on Toyota.jp:
http://toyota.jp/harrier/003_p_001/spec/spec/hybrid/
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Old 11-14-13, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
Interior is nice.. Meh on exterior....

Time for a new hybrid powertrain?
how do you mean new? This is brand new... probably same engine will go into NX - question is if it will be version without D4S and with 190hp or with D4S and 215hp.

I think it will likely be exactly the same as here, as fuel efficient engine, nobody in target markets will think it is slow - 0-100kmh in 9s... And probably US is not a target market for 300h.

2.0t might get 28-29 MPG vs 36-37 for 300h engine, for $2k less and being considerably faster most likely (2s off 0-60?).. I dont see many selecting NX300h in the US over NX200t.
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Old 11-14-13, 09:11 AM
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looks great from the angle imo
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Old 11-14-13, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
looks great from the angle imo
yeah, they realisted 6 different body kits for it basically, official ones... thats great support from Toyota for the car.

They expect pretty large sales from it - 30k per year, which is a lot for Japan and this kind of car... basically similar to what they expect from Crown. They will probably double or more the first year as no other manufacturer has a hybrid SUV there, which is a big deal.
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So if this is the Harrier, does that mean the RAV4/Vanguard is gone in JDM?
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Old 11-14-13, 01:35 PM
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cool car. Stupid name.
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Old 11-14-13, 03:52 PM
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why is everyone hating? this car is gorgeous and should replace our current rav4, or venza.
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Originally Posted by SC4o0
why is everyone hating? this car is gorgeous and should replace our current rav4, or venza.
seriously? i think it looks awful from every angle.

looks like a giant layer cake with so many bits of trim down low, up high, and in between.
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Old 11-14-13, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ST430
So if this is the Harrier, does that mean the RAV4/Vanguard is gone in JDM?
new ones were never introduced in JDM... they still sell old one. I would guess that this is the end of Vanguard for sure?
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Old 11-15-13, 12:54 AM
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The name Harrier is also a bird and an American fighter jet. Not sure what it means elsewhere.
The front end shown here is sleek, with it's slim and canted headlights. But the side profile shows an outrageous front overhang. I can't imagine anyone here thinks it's attractive. Then, there's one too many d-pillars along the rear side window. The last RX had the same flaw.
One thing I wish Lexus would return to is add wood trim to the center stack. It appears the vehicle above returns some to this spot.
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A bit like a Japanese market Venza? haha...

I really like that interior though!
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
seriously? i think it looks awful from every angle.

looks like a giant layer cake with so many bits of trim down low, up high, and in between.
everyone has their own opinion. but i like the interior more than the exterior.
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Nice taillights.

Is it safe to say that half of these features wont be available outside of Japan even on future Lexus NX/RX models
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Originally Posted by SC4o0
but i like the interior more than the exterior.
on that we agree. the interior is nice!!!!
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I like everything but the front end.
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