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Old 11-06-13, 01:37 AM   #1
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Toyota FCV (Fuel Cell Vehicle) Concept ready for Tokyo, maybe not 2015


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Toyota to Display New Concept Vehicles at Tokyo Motor Show

Tokyo, Japan, November 5, 2013-Toyota Motor Corporation will display seven concept cars in its Toyota-brand exhibit at the 43rd Tokyo Motor Show. The show, to be held at Tokyo Big Sight in Koto Ward, Tokyo, will run from November 20 to December 11.

Under the slogan "Fun to Drive, Again,"2 the concept vehicles are aimed to convey Toyota's vision of a future mobility society that values the joy of driving. The Toyota-brand vehicles on display will underline Toyota's efforts to contribute to society while creating ever-better cars that exceed expectations.

The Toyota-brand display will include a concept version of the fuel cell vehicle scheduled for launch around 2015, as well as next-generation taxi designed with usability in mind and a concept car that connects with its driver in an easy-to-use, intuitive manner.

Overview of Toyota-brand Display Vehicles to Debut at the Tokyo Motor Show
The booth will also feature the "i-Road," a personal mobility vehicle which made its world debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March this year, and the "FT-86 Open Concept," a rear-wheel-drive sports convertible.

1 Press days: November 20 – November 21; special guest day: November 22; preview night (invitation only): November 22; public days: November 23 – December 1
2 A play on the Toyota-brand catchphrase "Fun to Drive", which was used in domestic Japanese advertisements from 1984 through 1987; the slogan was also used at the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show


1. Toyota FCV Concept (world premiere)

The Toyota FCV Concept is a practical concept of the fuel cell vehicle Toyota plans to launch around 2015 as a pioneer in the development of hydrogen-powered vehicles. The concept boasts a driving range of at least 500 km and refueling times as low as three minutes, roughly the same time as a gasoline vehicle.

The vehicle's exterior design takes cues from a catamaran and evokes flowing water. The front view features air intakes on each side that symbolize the "taking in air, emitting water" function of the cutting-edge technology. The side view conveys this air-to-water transformation with its flowing-liquid door profile and wave-motif fuel cap, while the rear view conveys a catamaran's stern.

With Toyota's proprietary small, light-weight FC Stack and two 70 MPa high-pressure hydrogen tanks placed beneath the specially designed body, the Toyota FCV Concept can accommodate up to four passengers.

The Toyota FC Stack boasts power output density of 3 kW/l, more than twice that of the current "Toyota FCHV-adv" FC Stack. In addition, the FC system is equipped with Toyota's high-efficiency boost converter. Increasing the voltage made it possible to reduce the size of the motor and the number of FC cells, leading to a smaller FC system with enhanced performance at reduced cost.
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Love the front and sides. don't care for the rear. I wouldn't mind that being the precursor for the next Prius
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Love the front and sides. don't care for the rear. I wouldn't mind that being the precursor for the next Prius
wow. i'd rate this one of the ugliest cars i've ever seen.
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wow. i'd rate this one of the ugliest cars i've ever seen.
car looks like a futuristic concept... they are plenty of ugly Japanese contepts of old, this is nothing like them.

In any case, it is just a concept... it is going to be based on brand new platform thats only coming out in 2015.
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wow. i'd rate this one of the ugliest cars i've ever seen.
the car itself is not pretty, but the silhouette is neat. Some expressive design language though
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Remember 1st gen Prius/Echo Hoovey? Now that was uuuglllyyyy.
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oooh yes lol
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hahaha, on that we agree! i have a client who drives an echo.
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At CES in Las Vegas, Toyota's Bob Carter shows a company mockup of its foray into hydrogen-based cars and discusses the challenges, getting the price down, and creating a viable refeuling infrastructure.
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wish i was there to hear the whole thing, very interesting stuff. Makes you think, will tesla be relevant in 10 years? I wonder if their partnership with toyota extends into hydrogen
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wish i was there to hear the whole thing, very interesting stuff. Makes you think, will tesla be relevant in 10 years? I wonder if their partnership with toyota extends into hydrogen
sure it will, at least hydrogen will certainly not take market away.

It will take hydrogen 10 years to get where EVs will be in 3-4 years from now when it comes to infrastructure. It is complimentary technology - it uses a lot of same parts as EVs and Hybrids. Toyota is advancing their hybrids and EVs at the same time, they are not putting everything to hydrogen.

That being said, Toyota is incredibly bullish on hydrogen, and they are not kind of company to make empty promises. If they say they see incredible lowering of costs for hydrogen, that they dont see in battery world, then thats how it is.

When it comes to Tesla, it is not like they produce their own powertrain tech... they buy it off the market... if need be, they can buy hydrogen parts from the market as well.
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Those front air intakes are required to cool the stack, it takes air and hydrogen to create water, thats where air comes from. Toyota will help with building gas stations in California, they estimate that 68 stations would easily cover 10,000 vehicles (at low end) as it takes 3 minutes to get 300 mile range... they want to give drivers 6 minute drive max to the gas station. California currently has 10 and will be building extra 20 and 40 by 2015 and 2016. Toyota will announce their own plans by mid year.
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The hydrogen-powered car is back, and this 1 is wearing a Toyota badge.

After its initial debut at the Tokyo Motor Show in November, the hydrogen fuel cell-powered Toyota FCV for fuel cell vehicle — the production model will get a new name— made its 1st U.S. appearance at Consumer Electronics Show here. Along with the car, Toyota brought news about the nation's nascent hydrogen infrastructure.

Even though hydrogen has gained a reputation as a technology that's been just around the corner for decades, Bob Carter, Toyota senior vice president, told the crowd that the FCV is "really going to change our world, sooner rather than later."

This is the 1st U.S. look at the Toyota, which was announced also at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November but shown only in Tokyo. Toyota is among the makers that have suddenly gotten serious about hydrogen fuel cells, a technology that seemed to have gotten lost amid the hoopla about plug-in electric power and batteries.

At the Los Angeles show, Hyundai also announced a fuel cell vehicle, a version of its Tucson SUV, and Honda announced there would be a new-generation successor to its FCX Clarity fuel cell sedan that launched in 2008. All are due in 2015.

The Toyota FCV promises a 310 mile range between hydrogen fill-ups, room for 4 passengers, and a refuel time of just 3 minutes. Unlike a plug-in electric vehicle, there's no waiting for a battery to recharge. Promised top speed is over 100 mph, and 0-to 60-mile-per-hour times are about 10 seconds.

The FCV's propulsion system is small enough to fit beneath the seats, and 2 high-pressure hydrogen tanks save space and lower costs. Many components of the electric drive system are shared with Toyota's hybrid drivetrain.

Toyota did not put a price on the FCV will cost in production form — estimates range from $50,000 to $100,000—but Carter said that cost reductions will put the car on the road "in greater numbers" that people might expect.

"We estimate a 95% cost reduction for the powertrain and fuel tanks of the vehicle we will launch in 2015 when you compare that to what it cost for us to build the original Highlander Fuel Cell in 2002," said Carter.

The FCX's exterior design seems a windswept version of the Corolla with a massive grille opening for maximum airflow—or as Carter put it, "oxygen in, water out," referring to the fact that a hydrogen vehicle uses oxygen and its only tailpipe emissions are water vapor. Interestingly, Toyota says a fully-fueled FCV could be be used as a generator to power a home for a week during an emergency.

Despite its focus on other electrified vehicles, including hybrids, plug-in hybrids and straight-up electric cars, Toyota appears to have redoubled its research into hydrogen fuel cells. It's an alternative that promises to solve both electric range and emissions issues, but would require a hydrogen refueling infrastructure that currently is lacking in the U.S.

As proof of its commitment, Toyota has been been road-testing a vehicle fitted with the fuel cell system in North America -- it also brought that test vehicle to CES. The test-bed vehicle has logged thousands of miles, including braving cold-weather starts in northern Canada.

Toyota says has also has bee working on efforts to find ways to expand the hydrogen infrastructure.

Toyota said there be 20 hydrogen fueling stations in the U.S. by 2015, and 40 by 2016 — mostly in Southern California, where the FCV will initially debut, and where the state is promoting expansion of the stations.

"Stay tuned, because this infrastructure thing is going to happen," Carter said.

And while 40 fueling stations might not sound like a lot, there locations will be based on an algorithm that Toyota helped develop. It was designed to put most FCV drivers within 6 minutes of a station from home or work, and can adequately serve a concentrated market such as Southern California.

"We don't need a station on every corner," Carter said. "It's not about how many, its about their location."
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FCVs are powered by fuel cells, which generate electricity from hydrogen, which is not only environmentally friendly and highly energy-efficient, but can also be produced using a variety of readily available raw materials.

Thanks to these characteristics, fuel cell vehicles are ideal for achieving sustainable mobility.

Therefore, Toyota is striving to make this vehicle technology widely available as soon as possible.
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