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McLaren P13 coming next year with 450 hp
McLaren Automotive has only been in business for a few of years now, but already it has launched the 12C, the 12C Spider and the new P1. It's not about to stop there. Next up will be the long-rumored P13, a smaller, lighter sportscar aimed at the top end of the Porsche 911 range.
Now expected to arrive late next year, the P13 will borrow heavily from its existing stablemates. That means a lightweight carbon monocoque, a detuned version of Woking's 3.8-liter twin-turbo V8 engine and seven-speed Pre-Cog dual-clutch transmission and styling penned by Frank Stephenson and appearing closer to that of the P1 than the 12C.
The latest intel projects it'll churn out around 450 horsepower, which would make it significantly less powerful than the 911 Turbo it'll go up against. It also won't benefit from the Porsche's all-wheel traction, but its lighter projected curb weight ought to make it a close match in performance. UK pricing is tipped to come in around £120,000, which translates to about $190k or about $70k less than the 12C. That'd make it a touch more expensive than the top of the 911 and Audi R8 coupe ranges, but promises to deliver a higher degree of exclusivity, although US pricing could be adjusted accordingly.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/29/m...ng-2014-450hp/
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Lexus Test Driver
Oooh, I'd heard about the P13 but didn't know it would be RWD and not AWD. Very much looking forward to this car now and hearing driver feedback on it - hope it'll be a much more dynamic and engaging car than the MP4. I'm sure the waiting list will be obscenely long though.
As always, can't use currency exchange rates to predict eventual market pricing. When will these supposed auto "journalists" learn? For example, the MP4 retailed in the UK for ~168.5k GBP, but its US MSRP is "only" $230k. Generally, a much more accurate estimation is to use the same ratios. At an MSRP of 120k GBP, we'd expect US pricing only around $164k. If so, I'd think we'd see lots of them on the road.
UK pricing is tipped to come in around £120,000, which translates to about $190k or about $70k less than the 12C. That'd make it a touch more expensive than the top of the 911 and Audi R8 coupe ranges, but promises to deliver a higher degree of exclusivity, although US pricing could be adjusted accordingly.
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Lexus Fanatic
Very very cool !! I am very happy to see that the only company who step to ferrari is expanding the line up . There cars are a testament to attention to detail and their customer service is beyond anything in the market. Still never heard of a company that will upgrade your old model to the new model specs for free. ( maybe apple lol)
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Very very cool !! I am very happy to see that the only company who step to ferrari is expanding the line up . There cars are a testament to attention to detail and their customer service is beyond anything in the market. Still never heard of a company that will upgrade your old model to the new model specs for free. ( maybe apple lol)
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McLaren's baby P13 coming next year with multiple bodystyles, $160K sticker price
Though you could hardly call it "cheap" by most standards, when McLaren Automotive booted up with the launch of the MP4-12C three years ago, it was, relatively speaking, the most affordable McLaren yet. Cheaper than the original McLaren F1, cheaper than the SLR it made for Mercedes-Benz, and certainly cheaper than any of the racing machinery for which the firm is known. From there, however, things only got more expensive. The 12C Spider arrived with a higher list price than the coupe, the P1 that much more so, and the 650S slots in between the two. As we reported last week, there's a new flagship codenamed P15 in the works that will be less expensive than the P1, but still significantly more than the 12C or 650S. So when will McLaren offer something a little bit more obtainable?
That's the next project in the pipeline. Following the internal nomenclature that dubbed the 12C as P11, the 650S as P11M, P1 as P12 and the aforementioned upcoming flagship as P15, the forthcoming "baby McLaren" is known around Woking as the P13. (Which only makes us wonder what the P14 might be, but that's a question for another time.) What we'll be looking at with the P13 (whatever it will be called once it reaches production) is a two-door supercar based on the same carbon Monocell that underpins the rest of the McLaren lineup but will not, contrary to what Car and Driver predicts, be substantially smaller than the 12C.
What it will be is cheaper – at least, relatively speaking, that is. In correspondence with Autoblog, McLaren communications chief Wayne Bruce confirms that the P13 will carry a sticker price starting "from around two thirds of what a 12C would cost you today." That would place it around $160,000 (less than what C/D forecasts) and square between the latest Porsche 911 Turbo and Turbo S or the V10 and V10 Plus versions of the Audi R8.
"Guessing that its styling might be influenced by P1's, or indeed a 650S," we're told, "is as obvious as saying it'll have two seats." McLaren also confirms that it "will be offered in more than one bodystyle," which we'd take to mean coupe and convertible versions as are offered on the 12C and 650S, but leaves the door open to all sorts of additional possibilities in the future. We're told not to expect the P13 to debut this year, but given McLaren's cadence of revealing one new model per annum, we'd look forward to seeing it sometime in 2015.
Whenever it does debut, power will in all likelihood come from a detuned version of the same 3.8-liter twin-turbo V8 and seven-speed DCT which McLaren developed with Ricardo for the 12C and which has, in some form or another, powered every McLaren road car since. But just how much power it will produce and to what performance targets remain to be seen. Previous reports suggested around 450 horsepower, but our compatriots at Car and Driver expect closer to 500, a level of output McLaren would need to keep up (in bragging rights if not on the road) with the 520hp 911 Turbo, 560hp Turbo S, 525hp R8 V10 and 550hp R8 V10 Plus. It wouldn't want to come too close to the 616 hp offered in the 12C, though, even if and when it does ultimately give way to the 640hp 650S.
That's the next project in the pipeline. Following the internal nomenclature that dubbed the 12C as P11, the 650S as P11M, P1 as P12 and the aforementioned upcoming flagship as P15, the forthcoming "baby McLaren" is known around Woking as the P13. (Which only makes us wonder what the P14 might be, but that's a question for another time.) What we'll be looking at with the P13 (whatever it will be called once it reaches production) is a two-door supercar based on the same carbon Monocell that underpins the rest of the McLaren lineup but will not, contrary to what Car and Driver predicts, be substantially smaller than the 12C.
What it will be is cheaper – at least, relatively speaking, that is. In correspondence with Autoblog, McLaren communications chief Wayne Bruce confirms that the P13 will carry a sticker price starting "from around two thirds of what a 12C would cost you today." That would place it around $160,000 (less than what C/D forecasts) and square between the latest Porsche 911 Turbo and Turbo S or the V10 and V10 Plus versions of the Audi R8.
"Guessing that its styling might be influenced by P1's, or indeed a 650S," we're told, "is as obvious as saying it'll have two seats." McLaren also confirms that it "will be offered in more than one bodystyle," which we'd take to mean coupe and convertible versions as are offered on the 12C and 650S, but leaves the door open to all sorts of additional possibilities in the future. We're told not to expect the P13 to debut this year, but given McLaren's cadence of revealing one new model per annum, we'd look forward to seeing it sometime in 2015.
Whenever it does debut, power will in all likelihood come from a detuned version of the same 3.8-liter twin-turbo V8 and seven-speed DCT which McLaren developed with Ricardo for the 12C and which has, in some form or another, powered every McLaren road car since. But just how much power it will produce and to what performance targets remain to be seen. Previous reports suggested around 450 horsepower, but our compatriots at Car and Driver expect closer to 500, a level of output McLaren would need to keep up (in bragging rights if not on the road) with the 520hp 911 Turbo, 560hp Turbo S, 525hp R8 V10 and 550hp R8 V10 Plus. It wouldn't want to come too close to the 616 hp offered in the 12C, though, even if and when it does ultimately give way to the 640hp 650S.
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Lexus Fanatic
I am very happy to see another new model. This is great. I guess they age gunning for the higher end sports cars ...within the stratosphere .lol Kind of like the Audi R8, SL65, Ferrari California, Aston Martin, etc
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#14
Lexus Test Driver
I know this will be off topic, but I saw an article a while ago that someone is working on trying to bring down the price of manufacturing CF and it that breakthrough does happen, the price of CF may go down 90%. Just imagine that, soon enough we all may be driving cars made from CF.
Anyways it is nice to see that McLAREN is making another car, with a lower price point. I still can't afford one, but I wonder how well it will compare to the 650S and P1. One thing, with this price point I wonder if I will see many more McLAREN's around Montreal.
Anyways it is nice to see that McLAREN is making another car, with a lower price point. I still can't afford one, but I wonder how well it will compare to the 650S and P1. One thing, with this price point I wonder if I will see many more McLAREN's around Montreal.